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Metrolink: are you being taken for a ride?
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On the right track? Metrolink in Manchester
Outside Manchester, Metrolink is seen as a model for modern urban transport.

But closer to home, we're not all fans of the trams.


What do you think of Metrolink?

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When they first arrived in Manchester, we all fell in love with the trams. Quiet, quick and efficient - they seemed like a dream come true.

But Metrolink has its faults. Fares have risen steadily. An adult weekly season ticket costs more than £20 to commute from the suburbs to the city centre. A peak return from say Bury to Manchester costs £4.00.

Services are frequent but not so good if you want to stay out late in town on a Friday and Saturday night. And the trams are now showing their age, ticket machines don't always work and the network breaks down frequently.

Are you happy with the service? Or are you a long-suffering passenger? And what about the thousands of commuters who endure the 'sardine trip' every morning and evening?

Does Metrolink deliver value for money? Or are you being taken for a ride?

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From Dan in Manchester, England
It would be nice to see an answer to some of these questions from a Metrolink Executive! Since this is lacking, i'll put forward my point of view. Metrolink, overall, is a fantastic system. I use it daily to travel from the city centre to Exchange Quay. I guess that 60% of the time, the trams are on time, clean and unthreatening. 80% of the time, they are close to the above. The remaining 20% - an unacceptably high figure - they are not. Why? Because Metrolink is initially given cash to build the infrastructure, but is given no subsidies to run the system. What we pay is what we get minus Serco's (the operator) cut. If we want an improved service we either pay higher ticket costs, or accept slightly higher council tax to subsidse the network. I, personally would opt for the latter, on the condition that the network was not run as a PPP, but a not-for-profit organisation. Look out London...do you want this? Perhaps a referendum at the next local elections! f! or boroughs lying within the system's reach would demonstrate what I believe the people want. A fast, frequent, clean, accessible, (everything Metrolink claims to be) AND affordable, not for profit network, run by the people, for the people, funded by the people that use it. I could go on, but we're all to apathetic to do anything about it. Aren't we?

From Darren in Radcliffe Phone
Yes the tram is expensive, yes it is overcrowded at peak times and yes it is dirty but there is a bus stop near every station and you could save upto £50/month. the journey might take an extra 20+ minutes depending on where you live but almost invariably that will be about the same amount of time you spend travelling to the metro station. Oh and why does it cost £1 less to get a metromax day ticket from the machines on the Eccles line?

From - Danny C in Bury
I am pleased with the metrolink especially at the bury station end. It is clean, being modernised and there is a nearby information desk if you need help. However, i think i should point out that this is the only station that seems nice, traveling down the line other stations arent exactly eye pleasing nor is victoria station when you get off there.

From - claire in manchester
i think the tram is OK, yes it is dirty, over crowded and is expensive sumtimes but it gets me and my friends to where i wanna go quit quickly so...... i can't moan

From Pauline Greenway in Manchester
The Metrolink system appears to be crumbling, certainly on the Bury line. The company should concentrate on their existing routes before investing more money on other lines. This is a comparatively expensive mode of transport in the Greater Manchester area and the service should be reflected in these high fares.

From Trevor
My annual ticket costs £878.20. The trams are dirty and un reliable. The doors frequently don't work. Beggers have started asking for money whilst travelling on them, and drunks seem to have free rein to abuse passengers. The platforms are dirty and dangerous, and the staff disinterested. A great service - NOT!!

From Mark Clegg inStretford
What over country would have a major event like the games or build a shopping centre like the Trafford centre and have no decent public transport system to them?

From Dave in Sale
It amazes me how many people moan about the trams! Yes, they're not cheap and over-crowding is a problem but I still think it's a superb system. I use them every day to travel from Sale to Manchester (and have done for 5 years) and only rarely have I experienced severe problems that have really disrupted my journey. Maybe it's just me but a lot of people seem to have little patience with the trams, e.g. tons of people trying to squeeze on to one tram simply because they can't be bothered to wait six -12 minutes for the next one. At St. Peter's Square the other day I saw two women fighting to get on an Altrincham tram. An inspector said that the tram that had pulled in behind, which was also for Altrincham, was almost empty. Nobody paid a blind bit of notice to him but at least I went home in comfort on a half-empty tram.

I agree that many stations are grotty and intimidating and the trams need a good clean but I think a lot of people don't appreciate the work that goes on behind the scenes to keep the trams running. I don't work for Metrolink but I work for a large company in the north-west that supplies services everyone uses (figure it out) and I can fully understand how difficult it is to keep a system such as the trams running. Yes the system has it's faults but spare a thought for the people who keep it running and work to correct the problems when they happen. I think this is something a lot of people often overlook. Next time you grumble about trams being late or breaking down, think of the people who've been up all night trying to fix it. End of rant


From Louise in Ashton-under-Lyne
I have only used the Trams at off-peak times but come from Norfolk, where public transport is either rare or non-existent. If I wanted to go to work by public transport there I could do so on a Wednesday for a few hours. Having regular public transport has to be a plus if you don't drive, and I am still amazed that not only do I have all this public transport to choose from but also amenities within walking distance i.e supermarkets, swimming pool and cinema. Don't grumble, just think what you could be missing by living in the country.

From Ian Hodgson in Ashton Under Lyne
I've read many of the comment above. I have one problem about the trams from Ashton U Lyne. There arn't any! It might just be nice to have the opportunity to experience some of the so called problems the lucky commuters from Bury and Altricham have to 'suffer'. Think yourselves lucky you live in the real world rather than that forgotten part of empire called Tameside. I really thought we had a slim chance when the Commonwealth Games came to Eastfields. Can you imagine Sydney or Montreal hosting such an event without putting in such an obvious addition to the region's transport infrastucture? How DID we get away with it? So when are we to expect trams up in these Pennine wastelands, remind me again? I'm 60 now. What chances in my lifetime? What's that I here you say? "Don't hold your breath!"

From David in Chorlton-cum-hardy, Manchester
Why can there not be an entrance in Cornbrook? Is it becausae it's a dodgy area and Metrolink can't be bothered with extra security? If they can have a station (a not very necasarry one) in Pomona and Shudehill why not in Cornbrook, a densly populated residential area!!??

From Nell in Bury
The prices are ridiculous. The service itself regularly breaks down these days, and when it's working we have to put up with dirty, dangerous and threatening platforms and equally as unwelcoming trams. At rush hour, there is absolutely no chance of a seat, which for the price you pay, you'd expect. I've also to date, received no reply from their Customer Services department about a complaint. Shoddy treatment. I appreciate that the service is available to us, but there are an awful lot of things to be looked at before they can claim to deliver value for money. Security at stops should be one of them.

From Mark Gee in Sale
I see that the Metrolink have decided they don't need the planned extra center carriage for each tram on the Altrincham line, why? it will cost to much. Don't we pay enough to at least have a chance of a seat on the tram? Two carriages is a joke, I was recently on the London underground and there was six carriages per train!

From Chris from Trafford, Greater Manchester
For all you people who don't pay your metrolink fees, especially the girl who I saw being taken off to be fined I say hahahaha you deserve everything you get. some people seem to think they are exempt from buying a ticket. Also they should have inspector patrols on all platforms and all trams all the time to keep those awful council estate scummy types out. They should have double trams in the morning times as I can hardly ever get on. Can't wait for the next phases of Metrolink to begin, it's good to see that Shudehill has now been opened. Bye.

From JiammadC in Altrincham
It seems a little daft to me, sorry if i repeat anyone who has posted a response but i cannot read all of that text!!! The Metrolink is a gold mine for all of those little tear aways, i have seen the same group of people on a tram in the morning and in the afternoon, they spend all day riding the thing and mugging/ abusing the passengers that actually pay for a ticket. OK- in short, i do not mind being ripped off/ paying an extortionate price for a ticket as long as there is some sort of security ensuring that you are well looked after during your journey. End of Moan!!! Monkeys rule!!!

From Chao Kuoin Hyde Manchester
I once took the metro from piccaddily and there was secret inspecters dressed as civilians actually i found the experince fearful...

From tramboy in timperley
with regards to the ticket machines not working, if u have a mobile phone, phone up the cutsomer sevice number and tell them. They have an obligation to allow u to travel that part of ur journey without charge. This applies to the "note " machines as well. If they dont work fone them up and tell them ur not prepared to walk to a shop to change ur note. Ive lost count the amount of times ive done that a timperley. Be warned however..... nobody seems to answer the phones at customer services after 6.30pm

From David in Salford
I currently take the Metrolink from Salford Quays to City Centre at a cost of £2.60 a day; this is a journey of 2 miles!! I then have the pleasure of usually standing on a crowded and dirty tram. Don’t get me wrong it is on the whole a great service, but it is far too expensive. My colleges think I’m stupid for not paying an extra £1.50 to park my car in town, which would be with a guaranteed seat and at a time that suits me. I don’t want to add to the congestion of the city centre when I have another option, but I am becoming more and more disillusioned with the system. I thought the government was trying to entice people away from their cars? Wouldn’t it be best to offer a cheap alternative, rather that just making the car even more expensive to run? Yet again the people of Manchester are paying for the failings of the local and national governments!!

From Ashley in Hulme, Manchester
To Eric of Eccles. At Cornbrook there has never been an exit to the street, those doors now boarded up, is the fire escape from the station, they boarded it up because vandals regularly smashed the windows, so metrolink gave up replacing it and just boarded up leaving it looking an unsightly mess. Being originally from Merseyside, Metrolink is a brilliant system, it a lot cleaner and a lot less threatening than the MerseyRail Underground system.

From George in Bury
It is good to have the tram and when the network expands according to plans it will be really good for GrtrMcr. In the meantime though there are problems:
1. Whoever designed the trams made a mistake. Most of the day usage is low and there are plenty of seats to spare. At peak times, there isn't enough standing space!. Half the seats could be removed and this would solve the problem. Simple.
2. Ticket machines are not user friendly. They are OK if you are an individual passenger with enough change. They breakdown frequently, esp. the few ones that handle bank notes. There are no provisions to buy with debit or credit cards. There are no provisions to buy tickets for another day, or for groups, or for travelling a ticket in, say, Prestwich to Town, then back all the way to Bury (I admit, this latter case must be rare, the former two are not).
3. There is limited positive incentives to buy season tickets. Again, doing this is a hassle. Price for me is £20.50 a week... or £80.50 a month. If I used the tram several times a day, or at weekends, this would mean a marked saving, but I don't, I suspect few people do. I only have to miss a day a week and the pass works out no cheaper. It is expensive as it is. I buy it mostly to avoid wrangling with the ticket machines.
4. Their "passenger information systems" are poor. When their relay msgs on their loudspeakers, nobody can understand a word. And their electronic screens are usually baffling. They may display a msg for 10 min saying that the next Bury train is "due in 10 min"... only for the train to arrive 5' later (when suddenly the display is updated). On top of all this: Metrolink are arrogant! Whenever I've written to them with views, their response has been dismissive or defensive or both, with references to their 'market research' (ie "we know best") or with suggestions that I alter my lifestyle to fit in with their services.

Andrew Huggett in Prestwich
I use the service every weekday
to get to work (from Prestwich to Manchester). It's very expensive, uncomfortable (they really rattle along - I think the tracks badly need maintenance) and always, always badly overcrowded at peak times (as bad as the London tube). Prestwich station has half-heartidly been 'upgraded' but is still dirty with newspapers and rubbish and is frequented by groups of loud obsene teenagers loitering about. I am seriously considering driving to work.
From Frequent Passenger in Timperley
Metrolink is increasingly becoming more expensive and has definetly become more crowded this year. Double trams regulary pass Timperley in rush hour which presumambly break up in to two single units at Altrincham when travelling back to Piccadilly or Bury. Trams in rush hour are usually full at or after Brooklands which is only three stops from Altrincham! Staff need to be present at some stations in the morning as some passengers will try and force themselves on to trams when there clearly isn't enough room. Ticket machines constantly reject coins and most of the time do not accept notes properly. Why doesn't Metrolink invest in Croydon Tramlink style machines that can accept cerdit/debit cards? And why are 2000 series trams only used between Piccadilly and Eccles?

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