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SUPPLEMENTS HAVE SHOW WORTH IN PRISON AND SCHOOLS.

But it is no use going to stuffed shirts and blouses for a strategy. 'RDA' is as unfounded as 'climate' and 9/11.

Set up a trial in a low-nutrition area, DEVISED BY A SUPPLEMENT SUPPLIER and overseen by a competent DISINTERESTED body. Feed the kids in irresistible snack suffused with nutrients AND WATCH THEM BLOOM.

Hands up all who think IDS is well enough informed (or bright enough) to recognise this as a good strategy? (At 73, I still require no prescription medication, fending off a number of 'diseases of old age' - aka geriatric malnutrition - to great effect.

Shall I write to him?

AND ANOTHER THING (#1 additional)

Appropriately supplemented, and 'blooming', the kids should be inducted in psychology and philosophy (not as dust-dry subjects but wrapped in humour. See me.) THEN we will start to roll back the tide of nihilism that is drowning this country.

THE 'LANSLEY NUDGE'

A thought for Mr Lansley. If the election war-chests of all three parties (this IS the age of co-operation) were pooled, and given to a major advertising agency, with the brief to make us more healthy, LO it would be done. After all, was it not the advertisers who persuaded us to be UNHEALTHY in the first place?

One 'small' snag. The purveyors of degradation, are the payers of Big Advertising, and government is cahoots with the pair of them. Doh!
Oh come on Mr L, you can sort that out. What are you scared of - your job and future?

WILL THE NHS ULTIMATELY BE OUR TOWER OF BABEL?

Is the Bible story a bit garbled? The Tower of Babel was a massive enterprise, for its time, perhaps analogous to our NHS. Did it require the importation of a range of foreign workers? Did they speak Babelish (akin to Manglish), misreading the plans, using ladders as beams and wheelbarrows as roofing, thus jerry-building an unsustainable tower?

As the NHS staff, and patients, become less and less inter-comprehensible, will the NHS edifice come tumbling down? When our society has collapsed, in consequence, what myth will the survivors construct to describe the madness of that time?

No prizes.

On the deficit the US is starting to contemplate deficit reduction over more stimulus with people like Rubin on one side and Reich on the other.

I hope I am right to assume that we perhaps taking a more objective and flexible approach where we have sent clear signals on the deficit reduction but where the BoE may engage in more stimulus at Xmas if the situation warrants it.

#4 barriesingleton

"When our society has collapsed, in consequence, what myth will the survivors construct to describe the madness of that time? "

Would that depend on whether the survivors are people like your old pal jaded_jean who was all for national Socialism?

On Lansley and health education surely the issue is whether we can afford not to be proactive as if we wait until we have a huge burden of the next economically unproductive older generation and lots of overweight young people vulnerable to diabetes, cancer and heart issues as instances.

The problem is that you could spend zillions and achieve nothing as people won't react until they realise it is a problem for them.

Most people know now that alcohol is bad for them and most drink too much. But it will still probably take decades to get things into order in that department.

There needs to be education and carrots and appropriate sticks.

On this hand it is hard not to be boorish and repetitive on racial intolerance.

On the other hand from time to time there are some posters who will complain that Newsnight does not listen to the "posters" who are agreed on matters racial.

But the thing is they aren't as some of the posters tend to the views of National Socialists and believe races are genetically different.

Others take a different tack and talk about race but from a cultural view whilst referring to racially different people.

But myself as a valid Newsnight poster I know that genetic variation is greater within a race than between races and I also know that culture is an environmental factor divorced from race.

Its also clear that when people refer to their "conscience" then rather as B&B owners who seek to discriminate against gays that is not the issue the law is.

If people challenge the law with evidence then we all sit up and pay attention.

If that does not happen then I would hope that Newsnight continues to focus objectively on the issue rather than even contemplating bowing to pressure.

My validation continues to be those frequent references by others to Jews, Holocaust Denial by the back door and comments viewing those who accept the law and logic and science behind multiculturalism as being "on the road to hell".

I have always assumed with the English Defence League that over time they would "self-filter" and reduce down to their genuine elements and surely their leadership and strategies would become clearer.

Given the volume of violence including police injuries that they cause it is good that they are not rewarded with publicity that some may crave as a way of destabilising society.

On the other hand in order that there can be a judgement on whether they represent a genuine expression of people who misguidedly believe they achieve anything at all via the EDL or the exploitation of the naive by cynical racially orientated "third parties" there needs to be information.

This of course presumes the media is any closer to understanding an organisation with such media shy leaders.

GIRD UP YOUR ONE GANGLION (#6)

For pities sake Gango - leave it out! Were you frightened by a 'Janet and John' book as a neo-verbal - or was one cruelly taken from you perhaps?

He is NOT COMING BACK Gango. Try to move on. But whatever you decide, count me out. It is enough to take on 7 billion, but 7 billion plus YOU might just make me give up. Desist - there's a good chap.

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It would appear that the thought police are out in force again today !

PC PINOCCHIO'S NOSE ?

/news/uk-10911436

All the most recent evidence suggests that road safety policy such as traffic calming, lower speed limits with speed cameras and cycle lanes have not reduced road casualties as claimed by the government and police. In actual fact the police have been massively under reporting serious injuries in an attempt to justify their current policy, they claimed 26,000 when the NHS figures prove that the true figure is 40,000. Admittedly road deaths have come down, but perhaps this is due to better paramedic ambulance treatment and things like the air ambulance and car design. The injury figures have come down more recently by 2%, but perhaps the reduction in deaths and 2% injuries is due to the introduction of free bus passes for the elderly taking many potentially less competent old drivers off our roads. Frail elderly drivers are probably easier to kill when they are involved in accidents where they pull out in the path of oncoming traffic. It is said that speed alone is only the cause of 6% of serious accidents yet the police still fail to routinely test the eyesight of all people involved in road accidents or caught on a highly visible fixed speed camera ?

CYCLE LANES RDUCE FATALITIES?

In Newbury we have a terrifying set of cycle lanes surrounding St John's Roundabout. They are an invitation to any pedantically assertive (OCD) cyclist, to get killed. Many other lanes require the cyclist to hold a tight line and suffer all the irregularities of the road-edge. Of course, where the cyclist has access to pedestrians, on what was once pavement, he wreaks his revenge.

A very EU solution.

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#13 barrie

Its a long time ( 1993 ) since I was a wagon driver now but I would like to publicise some of my experiences with particularly the lycra clad toe clip professional ( fully paid up eco-fascist leaning type ) cyclists. One favourite trick was to come up level with the tractor unit drive axle ( right in your impossible blind spot ) and then cling onto the tautliner straps to save taking their feet out of their toe clips. You could only see them once you had moved off, themselves wobbling as they let go after an initial tow as far as they dare. It should be unlawful to overtake a goods vehicle on the nearside like it was in Australia back in 1987 when I was out there. Trailers were clearly make " no overtaking " on the nearside, anybody who got squashed undertaking was laughed at by the traffic police. Its all about education really, I would always get as close as possible to the nearside kerb to prevent any cyclist sneaking up your nearside and trying to race you. Now they are theoretically given a green light to do this potentially dangerous practice with some cycle lanes at traffic lights.

Another favourite trick of the lycra uniformed potential eco-fascists was to race you to the narrow bit, then relax and slow down at least 5 Mph. This causes unnecessary fuel wastage and the resultant extra pollution from all HGV's and buses, perhaps to a point where the alleged eco-friendly cyclist actually generates more pollution on his journey than what he would have personally emitted had he caught the bus instead.

Of course the pollution aspect has vastly increased since the introduction of " traffic calming " measures like pedestrian refuge islands, build outs from the kerb on a one wide road perfectly safe for cyclists except the potential hazard of parked cars. If anyone had deliberately set out to design death traps for cyclist it is doubtful whether they could have made a better job than traffic calming.

Its the lycra uniformed eco-fascists who cause the bulk of potential danger on our urban roads, civilian pleasure cyclists are hardly ever a problem. Likewise on fast trunk roads, all cyclists should be allowed to use the almost totally deserted footpaths for safety and promoting smooth traffic flow. In towns specific cycle routes running virtually parallel to main routes should be cleared of parked cars on at least one side of the road. It wont be popular with residents but it will save both lives and pollution.

Barrie, You will listen to the great one! You can't deny the words of the master. He has his box, loudhailer and this is his compound.
Come to think of it Barrie, Didn't Stalin, Hitler and all the other dictators of history start out that way, you know, er they were always right and everybody else was wrong. Do you not detect a dictatorial tone in his comments..do we have a little Hitler in our midst perhaps. I mean, when Hitler first made an appearance, he was laughed at as well, even jailed for causing an upset in the streets.
And look how his political career took off!
Maybe he's already been selected by the Globalist as their new poster boy, he may need a few more years before he starts shaving but they always get them young anyhow, easier to plant and indoctrinate their agenda into the soft and not yet fully developed brain. And when the time is right, they are unleashed on to an unsuspecting electorate...I think that's whats going on here Barrie. A new world Order selected mouth-piece is amongst us and he is gonna be just ripe for moving to the next stage..from skateboard to mountain bike. Six years from now he'll be chauffeur driven around the streets in a blacked-out limousine. He'll be leading a march of ultimate control of the masses. And we'll have no chance as Political correctness has already crippled us and our energy levels depleted because of the toxins in our food and toothpaste..we won't have the strength nor the will to resist. We'll be forced to listen to this young mans words. New Lib laws will be made. We'll have to carry a copy of his first and only book, regarded by many - especially the brain washed Liberals - as not just a political ideology but as a sacred text:
There is no difference between the races.
From skateboard kid to Dear Leader, my story.

Forward by Woody Allen and Ben Bernank

MARKED MAN (#16)

First up against the wall Kev. I don't know you - keep your dirty pebbles.

AND STUCK IN TOP GEAR. (#15)

You forgot to mention that the LCTCPs stay in a high gear and wobble accordingly, when moving off, adding to the hazard! (:o) But you have to admit, the sight of those flimsy wheels turned into Macrame is deeply satisfying.

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no.16

The problem is kevseywevsey, his strategy is more destructive than you and others may appreciate. The aim appears to be to get you (and everyone else) to oppose his apparent liberalism and thus appear to be a dictator. That way you are seen to tacitly endorse his vilification of Hitler, Stalin or anyone else who opposes libertanans (free-marketeers).

In fact, this behaviour is all about a) encouraging consumerism and b) undermining regulation. Beware - it doesn't matter what Hitler or Stalin, or any other bete noir may have done or not done. To his ilk, all governance is bad governance, as active governance encroaches upon civil liberty thus making profiteering at the expense of the child-like consumer/electorate more difficult.That is, if everyone is said to be equal, it makes caveat emptor much easier to peddle.

This is a very cynical/evil strategy, as it makes out that it's humanistic when in fact it's precisely the opposite. It is evil incarnate, and sadly, it's working too. Most destructively.

My advice: try to 'box clever'.

don't upset the somali pirates in case they sue?

UK blocks sanctions against suspected Somali pirates

/news/world-africa-10917961

somali crackdown threatens City ransom role

so my question on the 14 and 21 is

given the FO has a policy of not dealing with hijackers hostage takers etc why is it legal to pay ransoms in the uk? Anything that makes the crime easier [through a legal easy payments system for example] is facilitating more such crime?

15

yes lots of bad cyclists out there. lots of bad uninsured, untaxed, un licenced drunk high on drugs half asleep drivers too.

on a bike you can only get it wrong once. people who develop bad road habits are pushing up the odds of meeting 'the once'. on that [and drug takers] i'm a bit of a natural selectionist that weeds out the people with bad habits.

i'm not sure which bit is being blocked. is it the links?

/news/world-africa-10917961

22

are ransoms taxed?

QE 2.0 would be bad, the question is how bad, small drop in the USD or the start of a collapse? If the Dollar collapses the reverberations thoughout the world would be enormous, let us all hope that that saner heads will prevail.

As for making statistics interesting and useful perhaps NN should invite Edward Tufte on -



His website is here-



Of course there is much that can be done to make data more presentable using different clustering and classification algorithms to differentiate data, show outliers etc. If anyone is as much of a nerd as me they might want to read things like Clustering (IEEE Press Series on Computational Intelligence) ISBN 0470276800 or Knowledge-Based Clustering: From Data to Information Granules ISBN 0471469661.

#21

great linked links!

#20

yes, very cynical indeed!

My God both my parents... Now dead from old age both smoked plus my Mum smoked when pregnant with me and my brother and sisters... still alive and i enjoy a Camel and a drink in the evening.... I am 56 and when I drive in the morning you should how many women are smoking in the morning ... add that to all the people from other countries here in Bognor Regis that smoke and do not work.. where does their money come from eh????? As far as smoking and drinking ...It's all down to 'if your name's up' I have seen a 46 year old die - never smoked or drank

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It's all about if your number is up

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given, almost uniquely for an organised criminal gang, they can legally use the uk banking system do somali pirates take visa?

so if AQ was to demand ransoms they could legally do so through the uk?

SO WALK, AT WILL, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD? (#31)

"It's all about if your number is up"

Does a smoking gestator impair logic in the foetus? It would seem so.

this blog is a joke

"BEARDIE AND BUNBONCE INDULGE IN BILL-HOOKS"

The discussion of whateveritwas, involving colour and shape, was about as 'Emperor's new Clothes' as it gets. Surely it belonged on Newsnight Review (or whatever its new name is) where bill-hooks regularly feature?

HOW DO YOU MEAN 'JOKE' EXACTLY DJ? (#35)

Might you express that in shape and colour, for greater clarity, going forward? I don't think you are in The Zone, conceptwise.

The Corporate Nazi supporters have had a propaganda field day on Newsnight tonight, first heaping up the pressure on smokers and fat people, then that nice cuddly Polar bear Mr Blanchflower and other interested parties suggesting that both the UK and particularly the US extend and increase the Welfare State for the stock market parasites. Then yet more propaganda on dismantling our hard won welfare state for the people by at least one so brain dead not to realise that JSA is only a about a third of the minimum wage suggesting it should be cut to 50% of a proper job.

Perhaps it was rather fitting that ΒιΆΉΤΌΕΔ2 should screen the holocaust edition of the World at War directly afterwards, after all the eco-fascists have talked about reducing the UK population by 30 million or to 30 million. With no party actually committed to repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 some form of holocaust could be on the cards to cut government spending on the resulting millions unemployed when it starts to bite proper in some 21st century " final solution " ?

Hhhhmmmm this article says it all..........

In the spirit of instructional visuals it might be an idea to show what happened in Zimbabwe when they printed money, here is the stock market-



And the hundred trillion Zimbabwean Dollar bill to buy a loaf of bread-



Also there was no mention of the animated visualization of IED attacks in Afghanistan created from the Wikileaks released documents showing how much worse the situation has become-



Hans Rosling's talks can be found on TED.com, I think this was the one shown on NN-



The rest can be found by searching TED-

@ Mim #19 - I've read ALL Jeremy's books and absolutely loved them :o)
From his first "A Higher Form of Killing" which he co-wrote with Robert Harris to his latest "The Victorians." His book "The English" is used as a set A-Level text!

:p and to all the critics of University Challenge β€œKnowledge isn’t elitist – that’s rubbish. Why are we embarrassed by the idea that people know things? It’s not a conspiracy against the ignorant. Knowing things is good,” - Jeremy Paxman (Source:

28. At 11:04pm on 09 Aug 2010, DebtJuggler

Just think of all the talk of patients having to be allowed to make
'informed choices' (how can they be informed, if they don't have the
education?), The same goes for parents and schooling.

People are being suckered into buying all kinds of 'services' from banks
etc. Older people are most at risk as they think the country is still
regulated.

Watch ΒιΆΉΤΌΕΔ Panorama this week on wills etc. This all preys on human
cognitive vanity, i.e narcissism. :-(

Most readers won't get the point being made in my 20 as it requires too
much thought i.e deliberation and self-criticism. People vainly like to
think that they are clever.

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#42

Welcome to the club, Mistress76uk. We may not always be in agreement about things, but we surely appreciate Paxo.

Coming to think of it, have you read Barack Obama's book 'Dreams from My Father'? I recommend you do. It's very revealing about where his personality and ideas stem from, what doubts he had before deciding to involve himself seriously in politics and finally to go successfully for the Presidency of the USA. I'm glad he has, not only for the promotion of the 'black cause'. He seems like a very intelligent man with a 'beating' heart. For obvious reasons, his task is not easy. What with the economical mess and abuse of basic human rights he inherited from G W Bush in particular.

mim

what good is there asking the vigilante militia [ie the public] for policy advice?

blood diamonds

isn't facilitating ransoms also a blood trade?

@ Mim #45 - :) Totally agree on Jeremy!
:p I hate Barak Hussein Obama, so will give his book a miss.

#47

Please may I know, Mistress76uk, why you hate BO? I could understand you not agreeing with him on some isssues, or even on quite a lot of them, but to actually go as far as to hate him?

For instance I've come to hate a few people, not many, but I can actually substantiate the reasons for it.

mim

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42 -

"Why are we embarrassed by the idea that people know things? It’s not a conspiracy against the ignorant. Knowing things is good,” - Jeremy Paxman "

There's one of those disingenuous questions which I was referring to a few days back.

The answer (to emphasise the obvious).. is that anything which provides evidence of individual differences (especially cognitive differences) is very bad news for the self-styled 'equalitarians' - i.e those who desire the largest (ideally least discerning/discriminating) consumer base for their products. Telling people that they don't need to know the small print of life but are, at the same time, quite able to make informed choices, is the name of their sordid game.

Do you accept the above mistress76uk? If so, why do you persist?

This behaviour goes hand in hand with celebrity worship too. To
illustrate: JP only know the answers because they're on cards, Cameron and Obama etc mainly only say what their speech writers draft, and most pop stars/actors voice others people's work. So where is credit due? Why is life so superficial and why are people so vain today? I say it is because their child-like vanity is good for selling stuff. So, it is salesmen and women who are behind all this political correctness, not so called 'lefties'