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Grammy award-winning country artist Carly Pearce joined Woman’s Hour’s Nuala McGovern recently and spoke about the shame she felt after going through a very public divorce.

Carly was speaking during our special programme about women and country music.

She told Nuala that writing songs whilst going through the break-up felt like writing a diary, but

Carly hopes that her album, 29: Written In Stone, will help people see that pain can be turned into purpose, and encourage people to be kinder to themselves, own their story and be proud of it.

You can listen to the full interview with Carly on Â鶹ԼÅÄ Sounds – it's the special bank holiday episode of Woman’s Hour about women and country music from 1 April.