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TV presenter and author Sandi Toksvig joined Clare McDonnell in the studio for Â鶹ԼÅÄ Radio 4's Woman’s Hour recently.

She told us why she thinks we should celebrate our ‘logical not biological family’, or chosen family.

Sandi spoke about feeling a lack of support when she came out as gay, and said she thinks that 30 years later, many still feel an element of fear around being rejected.

So, she wants us to celebrate the family we create, rather than just those you are given, and told us how lucky she feels to have a close circle of friends across the globe.

It’s the subject of her new novel, Friends of Dorothy, which follows a couple who move into the house they’ve bought only to find it’s still occupied by the outrageous, foulmouthed, minicab-driving, septuagenarian called Dorothy who lived there before.

You can listen back on Â鶹ԼÅÄ Sounds – it’s the Woman’s Hour episode from 16 September.