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Known as a TV chef, author of best-selling cookery books and co-owner of Norwich City FC, Delia Smith was appointed Companion of Honour in 2017 for her contribution to cooking, which coined the phrase the ‘Delia effect’, some would say making her the original influencer. A devout Catholic, her faith has guided her throughout her life, and in the 80s she published books reflecting on her relationship with God. This March she released a new book, 'You Matter', arguably a ‘recipe book for life’, in which she explores the value of the ‘examined life’. Today we are on the verge of Mental Health Awareness week, which this year focusses on tackling loneliness and barriers to connection. And in her book, Delia challenges us to engage with the deeper aspects of life, and to understand ‘what an amazing thing it is to be a person and to be part of the collective human venture.’

In their conversation, Jonathan and Delia discuss faith, philosophy and reflection, and Delia reveals her own 'no-nonsense' recipe for improving our mental well-being.