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Although not living on the Isle of Wight, I'm surprised that they haven't been included for the torch relay. With Cowes being at the forefront of yachting surely they could have whizzed it across the water with a quick relay around Cowes and then back to Southampton.

No amount of window dressing will change the fact that these are the London Olympics.

Those involved with Locog (and maybe, Roger, at the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ) are in a little bubble of excitement about the games.

The sponsors and those with a commercial interest in flogging tickets are doing their best to hype it as some kind of 'national celebration' but frankly outside the capital (and certainly on the streets of Bradford, which you know well) I've yet to find anyone who could care less if the torch comes through on a token, flying, visit or not.

For many towns and cities in the UK, the arrival of the olympic torch will bring joy, happiness, new hope and a real sense of optimism through these dark and trying times. LOL! It's a torch! Don't make the mistake of thinking the majority of people outside London care less about the olympics, let alone some pointless relay race/ parade.

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Interesting that the torch visits Land's End but not seemingly John O'Groats...

It will be great to see the torch in the north of England. Inspired by this we will have an Olympic BBQ on the day; any chance the torch could pass by and light it up?

@ Number 4 - don't make the mistake of thinking the majority of people in London care much about the olympics either. Its an expensive waste of time that will only cause conjestion and misery for us that live here.

Well at least we'll get to see it right? Nope, i've applied for plenty of tickets without success thus far and will probably end up watching the entire event on TV much like every other Olympics that i can remember.

@Islington & @JimSprout
why are you so miserable??? this a fantastic oppurtunity to celebrate the top athletes in the world and it is a once (for most people) in a life time opportunity for people to watch the olympics taking place in your own country. and i think you will find the majority of people are looking forward watching it.

@bestchelseasteven

But thats exactly the point i made, i won't be able to watch the olympics take place since tickets have proved impossible for me to get hold of thus far.

But by all means i hope you enjoy the party i'm helping to fund but have not been invited to.

The torch relay is the biggest load of baloney of all the semi-mystical rites to do with the olympics and it should be remembered, was specifically introduced by the Nazis (not the IOC) in 1936.

Why the Olympics still has the flame, the flag raising and the oath is beyond me. Hitler and co will have loved all that quasi-religious, vestal virgin, Triumph of the Will rubbish and I can understand that in 1948 there wasn't much else to put on at the opening ceremony. However the reliance on Ancient Greek symbolism to entertain the first day crowd should have died in 1984 in LA when the man with the Jet Pack appeared.

I find all the negative comments on here annoying. Firstly why apply for tickets if you are only going to get all uppity when you don't get them. Secondly this is as we keep saying a once in a lifetime event for many of us. So just to be able to see a small part of it is special to many people and remember the route will be free so all you need to do is get there and watch.

Yes the relay has it roots with the Nazi party but let's think not all that we stand for is great and how many times have we imposed our traditions and beliefs on others which wasn't always right. Look at the reasons behind it the Olympics originate from Greece so we should remember that every 4 years when a games is on.
Lets stop the moaning and show the world that we can put on a good games and maybe prove to FIFA that the UK could/would be a good host venue for a World Cup.

Can we have David Tennant rerpising the lighting of the Olympic Flame as he did in "Fear Her"? then i might bother to be interested

I thought the olympic relay was intended to take the games throughout the U.K. Why so many centres in the south of England where people will have a choice of places to go including London. It should be based on distance to travel NOT density of population. There is a huge blank are between Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle and Carlisle and we are not all near a motorway! At least the journey back from Ireland should be via Stranraer.
Patjag

I shall not be taking part even though the torch is passing through as the whole idea has been hijacked by Cameron et al to ferment the idea of the Big Society, the latter being worse than manure

@Islington. You say: "tickets have proved impossible for me to get hold of thus far". How do you know? They haven't even started taking money from accounts, so you don't know. (Nor do I) Cheer up!
Also don't know why Roger is encouraging people to be happy or disappointed with the route so far. It's an incomplete route and the gaps will be filled in later this year. That was made v clear on the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ site and on LOCOG's. Anyone complaining about the absence of their town is doing this on the basis of partial information and should wait.

As Aldershot staged some of the 1948 olympic games,will the organisers take this into consideration when they plan the route from Kent to Surrey (Guilford)by passing through Aldershot

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