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Friday 13 August 2010

Sarah McDermott | 11:23 UK time, Friday, 13 August 2010

Here's Emily with details of what's coming up on Friday's programme:

"We wish to express our concern about the conclusion as to the cause of death in the light of information now in the public domain" write legal and medical professionals in the Times today. They go on to say that the Hutton enquiry was unsatisfactory - and ask for a detailed investigation and a proper inquest.

The death of the government weapon's inspector David Kelly in the summer of 2003 rocked the nation. Seven years on and a new government could be about to re-open a controversial and emotional period of recent British history. The signatories insist it's not about conspiracy theories - it's about getting to the bottom of what happened the day his body was found, and finishing an inquest that was left incomplete. They believe the medical evidence that has been presented to the public does not, to be frank, stack up.

Con-dem-ned... Michael Crick has spent the day in Eastleigh, seat of the Environment Secretary Chris Huhne, to look at the possibility of an electoral pact between the Tories and Lib Dems. Will the two parties really fight the next election on a 'shared record'?

Feelin' good? Or a bit cheap? Dance band Faithless team up with Fiat to launch their latest pop video. Deeply naff? Or a sensible way to make sure creative arts don't bite the dust in a recession? They're hardly the first artists to take money from the corporate world, so are artistic scruples a bit irrelevant?

Join me at 10.30pm on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Two.

Emily
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From earlier today:

A group of experts have renewed calls for a formal inquest into the death of government scientist Dr David Kelly.

They say the official cause of death - a haemorrhage - was "extremely unlikely" in the light of new evidence. The claim comes in a letter from eight senior figures, including a coroner, published in the Times newspaper.

Will this government hold a full inquiry? Liz Mackean will report to later.

And Michael Crick is in Chris Huhne's seat, Eastleigh, where he's investigating if the Conservatives and Lib Dems are planning to cement their coalition friendship with electoral pacts in certain seats, and agree not to stand candidates against each other.

More details later.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    at last, at last, an enquiry into the David Kelly affair. Is there anyone out there that believes the establishment version of what really happened that day? The Hutton whitewash and all the other gvt leaks that were put out by Alistair and Mandy....no...no, it just isn't true and seven leading doctors said as much six months ago and here we have more doubts from the medical profession so can we just have a government enquiry as nothing else will suffice. It must have been something pretty drastic for a man to be lured, as some have suggested, and to meet his end in so brutal a fashion. If we solve this mystery we could learn as to why we really went to war...but we all know the reasons now and the truth would only confirm what we suspected....

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  • Comment number 3.

    39. At 09:06am on 13 Aug 2010, barriesingleton wrote:

    "He was always a Blair (I think I might have mentioned that?)

    America didn't 'get themselves another one', like we have, but they - sure as little green apples - got Obama by the same flawed, corrupt process, and are reaping a metaphorical whirlwind, some earthquakes and a tsunami or two, to go with the real ones. Oddly biblical!

    Hey - it's going kind'a swell aint it?"

    I know you said you're beyond instruction (a bit of defiance no doubt), and as that's clearly contradicted by your reading other people's posts and following what the media rustles up, let me try to teach you something worth-while.

    In the USA (and elsewhere in our democracies), leaders are just front-men - i.e. well chosen images (think Reagan and Schwarzenegger).
    They do NOT have (absolute) power, i.e. they are NOT dictators (nor was Stalin for that matter) so there's no point singling them out as personalities. Doing so suggests that one doesn't really understand what's going on in governance. What really matters is the power behind the images, i.e. that behind the Madison Avenue public relations curtain. In the USA (and here) it's the party, and behind that, those who lobby them. In the USA (and UK) this is mainly the free-marketeers - i.e private sector business interests. They are the one's who lobby for 'freedom' from the state.

    Taking personal swipes at Obama and Blair etc, is really no different (in principle - i.e the ad hominem) from raving positively about pop stars or other celebrities. Again, it's those who make something out of casting them who matter, as many experienced (burned out?) actors and pop stars etc would tell you).

    You seem to know that Obama doesn't write his own speeches etc, and you must know that his powers are limited by Congress, so why do you persist in writing here the way that you do? I'm perplexed. It's getting a bit like thegangofone. Surely that's not at all good for you? is it just that swiping is easier? If so, is that no trash-mag stuff?

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  • Comment number 7.

    #3 tabbenabl01
    "In the USA (and here) it's the party, and behind that, those who lobby them. In the USA (and UK) this is mainly the free-marketeers - i.e private sector business interests. They are the one's who lobby for 'freedom' from the state."

    "You seem to know that Obama doesn't write his own speeches etc, and you must know that his powers are limited by Congress, so why do you persist in writing here the way that you do? I'm perplexed. It's getting a bit like thegangofone. Surely that's not at all good for you? is it just that swiping is easier? If so, is that no trash-mag stuff?"

    Ok kids tabbenabl01 is probably the statist/jaded_jean character due to language structure, character and plain experience and is perhaps seeking a new sheep's skin to peddle the same old National Socialist trash though this is slightly less pretentious with few uses of the word "explicate" but the usual hints about those "behind the scenes" and the derisory use of the word 'freedom' and the attack on free marketeers.

    So look out those who should be aware that the posts will start to tend more to pseudo science and lecturing as the poster wants to "take you on a journey" via "statism" and ending up in the realms of National Socialism. Regular readers will have heard it all before.

    More explicitly you will see the mention of Jews and the allegation of Jewish hegemony and perhaps references to the claim "that Hitler had to do what he did due to the internal economic and political threat of the Jews" - though of course my old favourite will be the claim that the Holocaust was "made up to put people off statism".

    Observe those that interact with this poster - should I prove to be right - and are completely at ease with notions that the races are different genetically.

    As a reminder the Nuremburg trials have never been refuted or overturned and no war crimes trial has seen the "internet evidence" that some propose shows the Holocaust was a deception.

    No scientific academy or journal endorses the view that the races are different on any significant level.

    Deep down I suspect the far right to be masochistic because to most objective observers their views are antithetical to their culture, philosophy and science.

  • Comment number 8.

    On Kelly I have to confess that there are clearly political issues if he was killed unlawfully that are patently highly important and explosive with far reaching consequences.

    But I personally feel that ultimately the issue is whether this fine man received justice and so I hope there won't be a trial by media backing one side or the other of the political divide on Iraq.

    It should be impossible to avoid full disclosure on such an issue and I would think, should that be the case, that the inquiry would not be restricted by National Security restrictions.

    Naturally I think there should be an inquiry and that the nation will demand that.

  • Comment number 9.

    Ecolizzy thursday.
    Sorry, I don't wish to alarm you. Watchin the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ economic reporters won't convey the real machination of financial institutions nor explain in detail what actually is going on in world economics. Preston, Flanders and Pym are economic Journalists with good pedigree but are only ever reporting from the outside. None have done real time in a stock exchange or had employment with any banking house . There take on the economy may be valid in so much explaining to the layman whats going on with the markets ect. Imagine someone writing about fly fishing but have never fished, the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ economics journos are a bit like that.

    It amazes me how many with investments rely soly on their branch savings advisor - he really only wants to sell you a product so will tell you anything really and most are perplexed with what they've just done with their savings/investments. Small investers are told these days their money will be safe because of the Govt guarantee saving scheme. Sounds good on paper, but thats just tax funded coverage for any one/two bank collapse scenario; total meltdown has not been factored in, because its just impossible to have it all covered. And remember the tax payer is already mortgaged to the hilt with Govt borrowing.

    Uncertain times means we should be better informed. Relying on just the usual crowd may prove fatal. Its important to tell you that I'am not giving you financial advice as such. I don't want you to go out and spend your hard earned on a top-end per hourly rate gigolo but if things go belly-up, hopefully you'll be near the front of the queue.

    Her are some better informed financial pundits
    Max Keiser: Inventer of the software used at the Hollywood stock exchange. Many years as a stock broker at Wall ST. ect etc. He also writes for the Huffington post..so Gango will know everything about him.
    Max has an entertaining manner which is a bonus.



    Trends forcaster Gerald selente. Never wrong this fella. I just hope he's wrong about the crash though.




    There are many more: Peter Shiff is one, he's very good but he's for the more financial savvy. (I think he's running for senate this Nov)

  • Comment number 10.

    On an electoral pact between the Lib Dems and Tories I have said before that for PR I would have been all for it.

    I am less enthusiastic about anything that might become a back door hostile takeover but to date all of the dealing seem to have been honourable and given the disadvantage the Lib Dems suffer under the electoral system I think why not?

    Labour apparently have inherited over 500% of the Lib Dem vote by now and so they won't be in the least bit worried.

    Not one bit.

  • Comment number 11.

    I am surprised there is no coverage of the news Mexico is totally rethinking its "war on drugs" and as there may be effects in the US and Europe as a consequence I would hope there is a very close policy and security eye being kept on that area right now.

    Is the war on drugs going to be lost and at what consequence?

    Could it be by contrast the legalising the drugs trade would cut out the crime?

    Personally I would have like to see draconian measures to prevent money laundering so that the drug barons could never make enough money to become so powerful they could challenge a state.

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  • Comment number 13.

    A HYDING TO NOTHING (my error @ post 5 above)

    If the Blogdog ever lets go, please read 'Jekyll' as 'Hyde'. 'Jekyll Brown' is, by all accounts, pleasant and charming (as, strange to tell, was my colleague).

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  • Comment number 15.

    #9 kevseywevsey

    "Imagine someone writing about fly fishing but have never fished, the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ economics journos are a bit like that."

    So ecolizzy should turn to an English nationalist Manny DJ instead?

    Its also of interest that ecolizzy looks to jaded_jean/statist/tabblebabl01 on matters of race as a minimum and as above that entity also frowns upon the free market and democracy and considering the self before the state.

    Won't you be rebuked?

    I see "the Griff" as you call him - I tend to Fat Boy Griffin - thinks elections against him are "futile" though if he is stepping down in three years due to his "baggage" they will need somebody in place well before.

    Still he got some publicity I suppose but hopefully the country has woken up to what the BNP are in reality and they won't get anywhere near as many votes at the next election.

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  • Comment number 19.

    Dang I nearly forgot on the Huffpost:

    "Another Haqqani weapons supplier, who was also not named, was picked up Wednesday in Paktiya province, NATO said. The statement said he had been involved in smuggling weapons, ammunition and bomb materials from Pakistan to fighters operating in Afghanistan.

    The U.S. considers the Haqqani group, led by Jalaluddin Haqqani and his son Sirajuddin, as one of the most dangerous Taliban groups because of its links to al-Qaida."

    Does this reveal anything about the state of al Qaeda and its relationship with the Talibs that could be reported by the media?

    There are clearly military priorities but we need to have a rough idea of how the situation is today as opposed to existing on perceptions dating to the start of the war.

  • Comment number 20.

    #6 I think I understand what you are saying tab01, although I wish you'd write in a simple way. Yes I remember Keith Joseph I was aware he was the power behind the throne.

    I think what I mean about "personality leaders" and it's importance, is that it fools people. They see this personality, in the same way as you say celebrities etc, are seen. So it gives people a false sense of this wonderful man or woman. Take Dave and his displays, with the camera following, I'm wondering what's going on behind the scenes, why are we watching this one man act, while the rest are up to something.

    I've been aware for many years that it is money that rules the world, and think you're example of Philip Green benefiting from benefits is exactly right. I know many people who squander money, when they don't have much.

    Now tell me what anyone can do about it?

    We are fooled most of the time, it's difficult unless you are widely read and educated to see what's underneath most things.

  • Comment number 21.

    #9 Thanks for all those links Kev, I will watch them, too busy counting my money at the moment! ; )

    I've never taken the advice of a financial services adviser*, I have a saver of a husband, and he's interested in hanging on to his money, and hunts for safe high interest rates. Trouble is that's always a moving target, and you have to run to catch up. Not into shares though too dodgy. I do think the financial situation is very worrying, and I agree you can't seem to find the truth anywhere, it's not for us plebs.

    *Only once, we got conned into an endowment mortgage, we're fools!: (

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  • Comment number 23.

    "When the dollar weakened steadily [against major currencies] in recent weeks, the yuan reacted very little," Mr. Wang said. "At the same time, recent data show China's trade surplus has risen significantly. All this suggests the yuan should appreciate."



    this is none other than economic warfare that destroys jobs in the uk and elsewhere designed to enrich china and impoverish us. time to tax chinese goods as the exchange rate it should be.

  • Comment number 24.

    kelly

    one has to be gullible to believe the government version? reminds me of people committing suicide by 'jumping' out of top floor windows of state security buildings? [see Accidental Death of an Anarchist]

  • Comment number 25.

    if cameron moves the clocks he would have done one good thing. the rest of the uk should not be held hostage by a few highlanders.

    all these big reforms he needs to do in the first year before the govt get bogged down. that was the big mistake of Labour.

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  • Comment number 28.

    NO RIGOR ALLOWED - RIGOR MORTIS HAS SET IN (26 and 27)

    It's all 'public domain' Blogdog. I have the relevant newspapers archived under my stairs.

  • Comment number 29.

    #25 jaunty

    Typical " ten bob fat cat person in soft job " attitude to the clocks being altered in winter, what about construction workers and others who have to work with far more potentially dangerous equipment when its dark. Sorry if I forgot that our country has to be run in the interests of brain dead Express readers living in some ten bob fat cat Utopian fantasy land !

  • Comment number 30.

    NOT MY WORDS (#28)

  • Comment number 31.

    No 20 -

    "Now tell me what anyone can do about it?

    We are fooled most of the time, it's difficult unless you are widely read and educated to see what's underneath most things."

    That's why, in the 1930s, many educated people thought that the Soviet Union was the future. What happened there was much like the Old Labour Party implemented after the war here, so what was happening over there was rated highly by those in the Labour Party (see the Fabians). The Soviets believed that democracy needed to be led by a vanguard (party) not the ill educated child like masses. That meant that the vanguard
    (party) had to be closely scrutinized to ensure that it acted in the interests of the people and not just itself. Democracy (of the old sort) worked in the late nineteenth century so long as it was the educated (largely male house owners) who elected the MPs. That way, the country was effectively led by a vanguard. Today, democracy no longer works, as it's become populism, and this is child like in its expectations. In the end, what we call democracy will be replaced or we'll perish. That's because if one leaves children to run anything, it always ends in tears
    0- they just can't plan ahead. That's the problem we have today as I see it. get rid of populism, and things will get better.

  • Comment number 32.

    29

    ..work with far more potentially dangerous equipment when its dark...

    shall we ban use of all mechanical things, like cars, trains, planes and vacumm cleaners after dark then because its dangerous?

    how many health and safety people does it take to change a light bulb?

    5.

    1 to change the bulb and 4 to fill out the forms.

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    #29 jaunty

    So all the real productive workers who generate the true wealth in our economy are to be pissed about and forced to travel during the peak school periods when both trains, buses and cars are already over capacity. Bet the stock market parasites will be backing this one,s yet more false economic growth just so a few stock market parasites and duplicitous office staff can go and pay to play outdoor " sport " for an hour after work. Then there will be more calls for congestion charging ?

  • Comment number 35.

    Just to illustrate my case about construction worker there were once plans to make Swinden Quarry open at 7 instead of 6 floated by the National Parks authority. Most of the stone went to greater Leeds and Bradford concrete plants, Halifax and Huddersfield. The thing was that if you got a good start at 6 you could be tipping your load ( under lights for a couple of months ), then come out of Bradford like a dose of salts opposing the rush hour traffic. Similarly school time in an afternoon doesn't bother you either much has you had already finished. Obviously the National park realised the mayhem it would have caused having heavy trucks flying everywhere when the schools were coming out in the afternoon. Similarly with the postmen, they recently had to start an hour later due to management wanting an extra hour in bed. The result is that now even more of them can finish their round in the allotted time, but then anyone with true experience in distribution knows full well that an hour in the morning is worth two in the afternoon.

  • Comment number 36.

    typo last bit #35

    More postmen can not finish their round in the allotted time since they were forced to start an hour later !

  • Comment number 37.

    36

    modern postman cannot finish their rounds because the current rounds are physically impossible to complete [i used to be an ex postie]. nothing to do with if its dark or not. also the move was to save money as posties got extra for unsocial hours.

    national park/national trust are all Margaret Rutherfords. i used to live in one of their villages. Their committees produce polices that are sanity challenged.

    those who think the world will fall apart are just paralysed with imaginary fears because they are unable to cope with change?

    the railway workers work all night [keeping everyone awake] with no problem?

    the idea in the 21st century darkness is a 'problem' is fantasy.

    people have lived for years without time changes with no problems.

    the whole invention came about because in the late 1800s one person wanted to collect insects and another thought londoners slept too much. these are fatuous reasons to keep it going in todays world.

    ..Robertson Davies, however, detected "the bony, blue-fingered hand of Puritanism, eager to push people into bed earlier, and get them up earlier, to make them healthy, wealthy and wise in spite of themselves",[91] and pundits have dubbed it "Daylight Slaving Time"..

    then it became a ww1 effort. Are we still at war?

    no. Time to let go.

    end it. stop it. kill it.

  • Comment number 38.

    But you can't lay concrete or tarmac properly in the dark, ( some have tried it under lights but always make a pigs ear of it ) and despite all your blethering you still haven't answered the extra both morning and evening " Rush Hour " traffic question, or are you not qualified or experienced enough to comment on that ?

  • Comment number 39.

    And anyway you shot yourself in the foot by quoting " Daylight Saving Time " what most other countries use to describe the equivalent of British Summer Time. Why not just keep the clocks on GMT all the time like we do in winter, follow the natural solar day ?

  • Comment number 40.

    POLITICS: THE ART OF SELF DECEPTION WRAPPED IN THE CRAFT OF DECEIVING OTHERS 'FOR THEIR OWN GOOD'.

    This morning Alistair Darling steadfastly 'refused to be aware' of the PHENOMENON that was James Gordon Brown. All he knew was that Brown, alone, had identified, and enacted, the rescue of world finance.

    But Darling went on to say that there is an ALTERNATIVE (the Labour approach) for recovery. So - a man who is in denial of Brown's disastrous personality, and the part it played in Labour's downfall, and who is adamant that there was ONLY the Brown way to save the world, is equally adamant the ConDems are wrong - again.

    I cannot help but conclude that he might not be telling all he knows and/or believes in the service of his fellow countrymen.

  • Comment number 41.

    39


    my opposition is to clock changing. not which particular time is used.


  • Comment number 42.

    Another good socialist? NOT

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  • Comment number 45.

    44

    oo don't mention aaronvitch and tony blair and iraq? nor given that background why did NN choose him?

    nor that the duty of care of an inquest is to the person dead not their relatives [no matter how 'distressed' or 'famous']?



  • Comment number 46.

    #43

    One of my grandpas died in a concentration camp, Mistress76uk. His son , and my dad, 'made' it but came back with a ruined stomach. They were not Jewish, however, but happened to be in the wrong place on one of the Warsaw streets at the wrong time. He brought with him a long sharp bayonet, I think it was, which he kept in the loo.

    I do have some 'wonderful' memories from my childhood, I have to say.

    mim

  • Comment number 47.

    RIPE FOR ATROCITY (#43)

    In the Ape Confused by Language the seeds are always there 76. The 'compost' is war and/or deranged leadership. Take a look at Britain . . .

    While we regard war as legitimate, and while we elevate the deranged through the Westminster Ethos, germination is only a light shower away.

    Moat and beam?

  • Comment number 48.

    #47

    There are wars and wars, singie. Apart from the one in Afghanistan, there seems to be another one going on which was started in the UK for absurd reasons. The hope is that the ones who started it shall be stopped in their tracks one way or another sooner rather than later. You are quite right, it is to do with seeds.

  • Comment number 49.

    #42 addendum

    How about calling it a seedy war??
    This way it will have a double meaning. And how about me carrying on as a real female reincarnator, if not his helper, as a 007? Though I warn you, I'm not into using guns or any other such 'engineered' object apart imaginary ones on Queen's ice.

    mim

  • Comment number 50.

    I am surprised and disgusted to see that my article's link to the last victim of Treblinka from today's Daily Mail has been deemed "referred for further consideration." This is an event which happened, and is certainly adhere to Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's House Rules, as stated in /blogs/moderation.shtml, and nor does it breach the Community Rules, as stated at /terms/

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    I know gango doesn't read links but it would appear that one of gango's sacred temperature records ( from NASA ) which he alleges proves global warming has massive inaccuracies in it for just north America around the great lakes.

  • Comment number 53.

    arranovitch...the Empire League....the Taxpayers Alliance...freedom, motherhood and apple pie....who writes this stuff (Ed...?)

  • Comment number 54.

    "Rmt union boss Bob Crow had said: "The idea that public sector workers in the UK, struggling on low pay and under constant attack, should start taking lectures in cuts from a billionaire taxdodger is outrageous.""

    This is the reality of what's going on. Now read the excuse as to why he's alleged not a tax-dodger.


    lip-green-hits-back-at-being-dubbed-a-billionaire-tax-dodger-115875-22486
    540/

    It takes a lot of confidence to talk like that. But then, it takes a lot of confidence to do what's been done to this country for the last few decades, and we all know, confidence is good for ' the economy'. The question is: whose economy is that? The trouble is, most people don't have the confidence to ask THAT question. Why do you think that may be ?

    Here's how it went . First the banks lent lots of money to businesses. They used this money to grow (sell goods etc). It served the interests of these businesses for the public to borrow money so they could buy the goods. The problem was that when this life on the never-never came to a halt, the businesses had nobody to sell to so couldn't get their bankers to refinance their loans. Where was the money to come from to bail out the banks who had loaned all that money?
    Through public cuts!

    Follow the money and start finding fault rather than wallowing in pity.
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  • Comment number 55.

    #50

    I sympathise with you on that one, Mistress76uk. Some of the decisions to remove some of the posts once they've been let through seem completely arbitrary, if not absurd.

    You are quite right that your link was a truthful, however painful, though probably uncomfortable to somebody out there, piece of news. No more, no less.

    mim
    mim

  • Comment number 56.

    On one of the Polish websites I read yesterday or the day before that NATO has made a firm decision to catch and punish rapists, wherever they are from.

  • Comment number 57.

    Apparently, the PM is happier to lead the coalition rather than just the Conservatives though I have not yet the article yet. I shall, though, to find more details as to why he thinks so, while, according to a poll, again news from the well informed Polish website (nothing to this effect seems to have appeared on the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ pages) 56% of Brits are happy with the current government's policies, including the necessary cuts to lead the country out of the mess that the previous 'leaders' have left us in.

    mim

  • Comment number 58.

    :o)

  • Comment number 59.

    #58

    Thank you, Mistress76uk for that interesting link.

    I would tend to agree with Jeremy on a few points here:

    • The lives of the underprivileged all over the world could probably change for the better if the richest countries, namely mainly capitalist ones, took care about how they make money as well as by some of contribution of one sort or another in a considered and well thought out way.
    • Democracy:
    I’m quite sure if people in most non-democratic countries were given the right to vote freely without any fear of threat, they would vote for introduction of free elections and democracy.
    • Unfortunately there’s a necessary degree of compromise once one becomes a politician representing a party and I think Jeremy is right about not becoming one although in some ways good journalists are a bit like politicians by airing issues concerning the voters. In fact, from my observations, Jeremy has already contributed in more than way to the political life of the UK.
    • It seems like a good idea to preserve sobriety in big society.
    I don’t have the time to expand the rhyme now
    But it does look like it’s the key.

    mim

  • Comment number 60.

    Rain I love the Rain Lorraine I Love Lorraine witch/Whitch Lorraine am I going on about, she's mine get your unclean hands off herr

    Rain it Never happens

    get a bath you smelly Git



  • Comment number 61.

    Soap you can make A Bomb from Soap

    Having A Bath with my Pig

    its Unclean

  • Comment number 62.

    #55 addendum

    Just look at #60 and #61, Mistress76uk. Is that news of any importance to anybody else whatsoever but some kind of weird satisfaction to the blogger of this text? I wanted to use an adjective with the last word but the Mods may deem it offensive.

    mim

  • Comment number 63.

    I'm speechless.....

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    the latest/layText wheez..dont tell anybody Bodies

    begging bowl/boweled over

    give me/them some money

    and then steel/steal away with unsaid bowl

    it works

  • Comment number 65.

    63 that works for ME

    can i B your Miss/Mistrest

  • Comment number 66.

    #64

    I gathered that's your 'sweet' way a long time ago. 'Good luck'. Wood for the trees, eh??

  • Comment number 67.

    #66 addendum

    'Steeling' names, ideas, women, etc. That's it, isn't it??

  • Comment number 68.

    There's a piece of news, Mods:

    I'm sitting on the grass very near the Kensington Palace which is undergoing renovation, including the monument of Queen Victoria which is boarded up but there is an exhibition currently on called The Enchanted Palace. Due to financial restrictions I can't really afford to see it but from all the visual displays around here it does look like it's interesting.

  • Comment number 69.

    MORE THINGS IN MALE EARTH THAN DREAMED OF IN YOUR HEAVEN 76 (#63)

    Copy that link to Paxo 76 - he might be able to explain. If he is truly candid it could just cure your crush!

  • Comment number 70.

    mistress@64 I'm speechless too.

    The woman in that picture needs to get to a gym if she wants to survive in this 'game' God help the poor invalid who is placed in a room with this woman. I always thought prostitutes should at least look a bit attractive..maybe her punters are less picky eh. As for the old fella coming down the passage, well he certainly don't look like he's even got the energy for a knee trembler. Ah well, like they say, each to their own....what!..are we paying for this? Jesus!

  • Comment number 71.

    #63

    I've read the article, Mistress76uk. I wasn't aware of tis particular scheme but shall make enquiries at my local council, Wandsworth, whose Leader and several former and present Councillors I know personally. I shall report back as soon as I have more info.

    mim

  • Comment number 72.

    #69

    Why do you want to put off Paxo, singie? Dreaming is good as long does not suffocate the person one dreams or even fantasises about making a hell for them. I should imagine you know exactly what I'm talking about, Barie.

  • Comment number 73.

    I'm not against prostitution at all (it isn't illegal) - whatever floats your boat - BUT I am against taxpayers money being used to fund prostitution. What happened to taxpayers money going to fund the NHS/Education/Pensions etc?

  • Comment number 74.

    @ Barrie #69 - ;) I could also state that there are more things in my heaven than there is on earth......

  • Comment number 75.

    #73

    It does seem like a 'funny' kind of business the taxpayer paying for prostitution though I suppose it depends how much money is spent and what kind of 'prostitution' it is. In some ways it could be considered as healthy for the elders to have access to it in order to release their natural urges as a preventative measure against going doolally and things like that. However, it would be questionable if somebody used the state funds and state's well-being in order to 'make' it in the world. In polish such a man is called alfons.

  • Comment number 76.

    PEACE IN OUR TIME (#74)

    I have this theory 76, that if we put the arms budget and the military budget together, and purchased top quality 'alternative activity' for all the squaddies who, currently, call warfare 'the job they love', no deluded politician would be able to raise an army. The the rump of misguided females remaining, would have to fight each other, exclusively, probably becoming a spectator sport for 'the lads' - when not too tired! (:o)

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  • Comment number 79.

    #76

    I'm at a stage, singie, at 56, of take it or leave it while at same time unique and only with due consideration, however, of already existing familial attachments. So no, I would not participate in any fights with any females. I'm into a different type of 'spectacle' altogether if you can call my ice skating and dancing a spectacle, that is.

  • Comment number 80.

    The eco-fascists will be squealing like stuck pigs about this, but perhaps some sanity is returning to UK environment policy given that two out of three sets of temperature data supporting the " warmists " have been discredited. Perhaps the " warmists " are now the true climate change deniers ?

  • Comment number 81.

    KEEP POSTING THEM BRO - I'M READING (#80)

    Assuming the apocalypse is delayed, I reckon energy supply will leave both fossil fuel and nuclear behind. In the interim, I would prefer FF as it is less messy when sabotaged or out of control.

  • Comment number 82.

    #72

    In 72 I meant to say, 'Why do you want to put off Mistress76uk off Paxo', etc

  • Comment number 83.

    Interesting figures from the NAO, click on the pdf on this page



    Over 9 million inactive people age 16 - 64, 23.4% of the population. I wonder when it was last this low.

  • Comment number 84.

    ooopps make that the ONS! sorry

  • Comment number 85.

    WESTMINSTER: 'FOOL OR KNAVE' JUST DOESN'T GO AWAY (#84)

    Either 'they' don't understand what has been constructed by successive 'governments' Lizzy, or they don't care because they think they can buy themselves to 'high ground' when the mayhem hits the streets.

    Human Nature is the force being toyed with, yet government is adjusting mere adjuncts. I keep pointing out that Britain is going mad, but they insist on 'solving' the problem by building a shiny new Academy Asylum (ConDem Britain) to move the just-as-mad-as-before people into.

    Ah well - Nick has two weeks to fix it. What fun to watch him trying to out-Dave Dave. I think he will look much like Brown trying to out-Tony Tony.

  • Comment number 86.

    where is Paxo?????

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