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Oh dear Ben, what a shame - no celebrities for you to smooze with. Perhaps writing an insightful article about THE FIGHT ITSELF could be called for?

I agree with you a little but since I am a regular user of Boxing 606 - I'm a little overexposed to it.

Just wanted to ask what was meant by he looked ill at ease?

Cheers

oh and :P First Post if the mods slap it in on time!

Ben Dirs is probably comparing it to Hatton v Mayweather. Which lets face it, fight aside, was a circus.

'Where the hell is Wales anyway' : As if that's an insult but a 'typical' piece of ignorance from another philistine across the pond!

Whether or not the fight has been promoted well or not, you can guarantee when the fight is about to start, there willl be millions of eyes on the ring around the world.

And do these two really need the cash anyway? I doubt it.

C'mon Ben you can do better than that.......
a tired piece of writing, maybe its time to think about joining these two in retirement if you can't get out of this predictable rut and give us something stimulating.

can't believe anyone cares!!! what a sad end to Joe's career!

Is anyone going to watch it? No-one in New York has heard of Joe and Roy retired 6 years ago.

I've seen more comments on a bog door!

well asking a random woman on the street who Joe Calzaghe is is hardly going to get a great response except from a journalistic point of view.

Joe isn't even a huge name in the UK. in Wales yes, but overlal in the UK I'd say the 'general' public don't particularly know who he is.

I'm going to watch it if I can stay up. I think it will be a good fight and very much looking forward to it. I think the promotion for this fight has been the equivalent of damien hirst selling his art direct to whoever wants it without a gallery in the way that the fighters will get the financial benefits. Why a ring master (as Ben refers to it) would be needed is completely a moot point as then you get the kind of scenes we have had before Hatton fights with multiple swearing and stupid pushing matches between the various psychophants in each camp. Just watch the youtube videos of Jones talking about the fight and it is very refreshing.

Joe C is a little unfortunate. He is a a genuinely nice guy with an equally nice style. However nothing Joe has to offer has the guarantee of excitement.

He is undountedly a great fighter and anyone that can go theough their career undefeated has to be up near the top.

Joe's main problem, aside form the above) is that he has fought the greats when they are a little past their prime (Hopkins/Jones).

Not his fault, but to me that is what separates Leonard/Haggler/Duran/Hearns/Ali/Mayweather/D Le Hoya from the rest.

No disrespect to Joe but I think he really has to make a catchweight fight with one of the three currents named above....

The reason for the "Lack of Buzz' is simple.
Calzaghe has never fought a Solid opponenet in his Prime, and has always gone into fights as the favorite and with some advantage.

Even against a 43 year old passed it Hopkins, he only won by a controversial SD.

RJJ is a legend. No Doubt. But he is passed it. His career died a few years ago.

Like Calzaghe said himself a few years ago. RJJ is passed it and there is no point in facing him.

Now RJJ is over the hill and even been KO's, Calzaghe knows he can beat him so has decided to face him.

I'm disappointed in Calzaghe, he has so much talent, but wasted his best years defending one Belt, and never went Prime v Prime against World-Class or Legend opponnents.

He may retire undefeated, but there will be a massive question mark on his career.

I always get a bit dissapointed by the anti-calzaghe comments. With the never fought a fighter in his prime comments. Admittedly, for a few years that was a valid arguement but since his fight with Jeff Lacy and then his fight Mikkel Kesler that arguements gone.
As for Hopkins, maybe not at his very best but he made Pavlik look like an amateur and Pavlik was the one legitimate fight that Joe could have taken in his own division.

I'm sure if the fight was Hopkins vs Jones jr the Americans would love it no matter if there was a promoter or not. It's just unfortunate that the American audience only recognise American fighters as 'great' and Joe will never get the rocognition he deserves.

How do you always get these jobs Ben?

You were at Hatton Mayweather and Hopkins Calzaghe, when all you do is spew up other writers' rhetoric.

My license fee has spent thousands on you being there and all you care about is that other promoters would've treated you better.

Who cares that Don King didn't promote it? Only you pompous journalists that think you're above the average boxing fan and expect a red carpet treatment from reporting the fight.

True boxing fans know and care about this fight. That is all that matters!

For the lady who does'nt know where Wales is, it is a county in Western England. ;)

It hasn't caught fire because Joe is a nobody in the US of A and Jones has been finished since 2003.

This is two friends pretending to fight each other for a large sum of money which they are spolitting down the middle.

Why didn't they fight 7 or 8 years ago?

The best Super Middleweight of the last twenty years was Ottke of Germany. How come Joe never fought him?

I tuned in to Yahoo Boxing's website last night at 9pm to watch the weigh in and was a left a little confused. There was this stage, and a load of people around the back and sides of it, I assume they were making the final preparations to the ring, lighting and seating etc etc before the fight. However, at the time, I thought I would have to wait at least 30+ minutes for the usual large banner which you see at all the big weigh ins which usually has a picture of both fighters going head-to-head, the date of the fight, and the sponsers/TV networks. But, none of that.

And, no crowd. (?)
The whole thing looked very under-promoted, and cheap. I was expecting to hear the roaring crowd we saw at the Hopkins/Calzaghe weigh in, but this was very subdued at quite frankly, boring. Obviously there was never going to be any pushing or shoving, as both fighters have shown great respect for one another. It's just, when it comes to the big fights, I always get hyped for the weigh-in, as it's always interesting to see how the fighters look, both physically, and mentally (if you see what I mean).

Now, imagine if this was just a few hours away, on the evening of what could (should) have been Calzaghe vs Pavlik. Oh man, would I be hyped or what!

I don't feel very excited.

Any idea roughly what time (UK time) the fight will start tonight?

about 0415 i think.

"The best Super Middleweight of the last twenty years was Ottke of Germany. How come Joe never fought him?"

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You either must be:

A. German and therefore brainwashed.

B. A person with an IQ of under 10.

C. One of these types who looks at numbers on a sheet and judges boxers merits on those without actually having seen any of their fights.

Which one is it?

And for those not in the know. Ottke is one of the last living examples of human propaganda in sport.

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I love the "Wales is a country in the west of England". Is this a put on, normal english contempt for anything not English, or simply ignorance on someonesΒ΄ part?.

Gwyn Williams