Round up Wednesday 9 February 2011
Post categories: round up
| 14:18 UK time, Wednesday, 9 February 2011
Roly Keating on the About the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ blog: "Permanent collections - the next stage in opening up the best of the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ":
...this isn't about all programmes, on all channels. Many of the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's most commercially popular titles and archive classics are of course available on DVD, or via pay-TV channels or paid downloads, and long may they continue to be so... But today's announcement confirms that in the online age the task of making more of the wealth of its fantastic archives easily accessible to audiences is an inseparable part of the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's mission as a public service broadcaster.
From paidContent: . Daniel Danker's post from yesterday has more details. According to Media Guardian I've been "valiantly"
PUSHON's blog postgot from Lewis Wiltshire (Editor, Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Sport Online) in comments:
To suggest that the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ sells these links to external websites, which as you rightly say would be against the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's charter, is clearly a very serious allegation. It's also totally untrue... None of the links to external websites from the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's UK-facing website are sold. All of them are editorially selected because we believe they offer useful onward reading for our audience.
Malcolm Coles but also suggests While Martin Belham at currybetdotnet as:
...a bit of a storm in a teacup...What interests me here is the immediate leap to assume that any bad, out-dated or inappropriate links on a massive editorial site must be there because of a commercial transaction...
Comment on the changes to Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Online announced last month continues:
From Unthinkable Consulting
From Adactio: On twitter .
And finally it's
There a at 7 p.m. chaired by Roger Mosey. Details:
How are Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ sport using social media across sports reporting, commentary and coverage? What are the plans for the future, and what social media plans are in place for Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's London 2012 Olympics coverage?... The panel will include: Jake Humphrey, Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Sport presenter - ... Karen Pickering MBE, four-time world champion swimmer, England's most successful Commonwealth Games swimmer ... Jeanette Kwakye, British 100m champion and only Briton to reach Olympics 100m final in last 25 years -...Lewis Wiltshire, Editor of Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Sport website and social media lead for Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Sport -
You can find a .
Nick Reynolds is Social Media Executive, Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Online
Comment number 1.
At 10th Feb 2011, OfficerDibble wrote:Nick the big stories uppermost on most users minds continue to be the changes in progress on H2G2 and message boards. This is creating by far the biggest traffic compared to the above subjects. Are we allowed to discuss them on blogs as currently the open blogs and specific blogs have been closed?
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Comment number 2.
At 10th Feb 2011, Nick Reynolds wrote:OfficerDibble:
I'm not sure on what evidence you assert that these are the big stories on users minds or that these are creating traffic. The big story at the moment appears to be the iPlayer apps.
You can discuss the changes to H2G2 on H2G2 itself and Paul's blog post about it is still open. You can discuss changes to message boards on the message board of your choice. These subjects are off topic on this post.
Thanks.
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Comment number 3.
At 10th Feb 2011, Eponymous Cowherd wrote:***"According to Media Guardian I've been "valiantly" quelling a "backlash". "***
That's because you have been attempting to quell a backlash. Android users remain exceedingly angry that the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ:-
Killed off perfectly functional iPlayer clients that could be used by any Android device.
Fed us a line that this was in the name of preserving quality (how is nothing at all ever better quality?).
Introduced their own iPlayer client that could only be used by a subset of Android devices and provided extremely poor and misleading information as to which devices could use it (corrected now, though the average users isn't going to find it easy to determine if the Android phone they are thinking of getting has an ARMv7 processor).
Generally surrounded the whole debacle with marketing double-speak and an ingratiating and overbearing "Auntie knows best" attitude.
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Comment number 4.
At 10th Feb 2011, OfficerDibble wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 5.
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Comment number 6.
At 12th Feb 2011, Squirrel wrote:Did someone decide to shutdown iPlayer Help/FAQ and Message Board today?
Was it someone who has been "let go" recently?
If not, an announcement in advance would have been nice.
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Comment number 7.
At 14th Feb 2011, tricky567 wrote:Someone said...
"I'm not sure why the Beeb is getting all this hate - or in particular the person who wrote this blog and the people who built this app and most likely spent a lot of time trying to get this product to what they feel is a high standard for the majority of users.
They're giving us a new way to access Iplayer which is essentially a positive thing isn't it?"
The negative response is probably because people genuinely think that based the people who are making these decisions are doing a very poor job. Based on the response in the Danker interview, this seems to be the case. They either are making decisions like no 3g for reasons that aren't be publicly stated, or they are actually of low intelligence.
Let people use a 3g connection - flash up a warning screen on app launch saying that streaming will use a lot of data etc if you really must. It's our problem Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ, not yours. Don't nanny us.
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Comment number 8.
At 14th Feb 2011, Faye Tsar wrote:"If not, an announcement in advance would have been nice."
The Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ seem poor in communicating news, which is pretty poor for a vast organisation where their primary role is broadcasting. They bang on about Social Media yet are found wanting when it comes to imparting information to it's users.
Feel free to hide this post Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ (This is what you do), the Internet Blog demonstrates that it's of no use, when it stifles all form of debate (The 'round up' blog has 8 posts in 6 days while the "open post" had a 100 in 7 [with restrictions place on it too]). We were told the Internet Blog usually closes after three months, the open post closed after a week, there is no justification for that.
Funny how such a vast organisation feels to unable to answer questions from certain people here, the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ are left to write articles of little interest and ban anyone having the nerve to question Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ policy.
The Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ is very poor, it's a shame it devotes it's energies in stifling debate, when all that energy could be used to provide us with a better service. How much, as a percentage, of the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ's budget is devoted to 'news managing' in the media (hello digitalspy) when it should be devoted to better programmes and a better all round service.
The big shame is that we have had a good conversation between Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ staff and it's public, it's a bigger shame that certain elements within the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ have got in the way.
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Comment number 9.
At 14th Feb 2011, Nick Reynolds wrote:FayeTsar and Squirrell:
This blog does not stifle debate. The open post referred to was closed after a week simply because managing open posts (and trying to get answers) takes up resources. I'd rather close a post than have it drift on when either as many questions as possible have been answered and/or there's no immediate prospect of further answers being forthcoming.
You are off topic, so no more please.
Thanks
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Comment number 10.
At 14th Feb 2011, Nick Reynolds wrote:Squirrell - I'm being told the iPlayer message boards were not closed on Saturday. Thanks.
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Comment number 11.
At 14th Feb 2011, Faye Tsar wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 12.
At 14th Feb 2011, MattWPBS wrote:Nick, seeing as you seem to be taking questions on here, I have a quick one on the Android app.
You've said a couple of times that people would be unhappy at having lower quality streams over 3G, and without Flash. Can you please share the research backing this decision up? I'm assuming that a development decision like this would not have been taken on a whim.
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Comment number 13.
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Comment number 14.
At 14th Feb 2011, OfficerDibble wrote:iPlayer dominates the bandwidth of the web in the UK and will on the 3G network. This is clearly a political decision - mobile networks can not support a 3G TV service.
All the chat about quality is disingenuous and smoke screen.
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