New Â鶹ԼÅÄ Red Button Connected Â鶹ԼÅÄpage
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| 16:27 UK time, Friday, 26 November 2010
As many of you know, if you have both broadband and a Freesat HD set top box, you can connect your box to the Internet with an Ethernet cable. This allows your box to receive content both via broadcast, and the internet! Recently we upgraded the Â鶹ԼÅÄ Red Button Â鶹ԼÅÄpage to link to Internet services such as and we would love to hear what you think of it.
Why was this required?
The Freesat TV and Red Button service is, as the name implies, broadcast to your TV via a satellite. It's broadcast to every Freesat user in the UK simultaneously, which means we can't show video to different people at different times. With the satellite infrastructure, any video we transmit has to be on a continual loop - it's not possible for you to just pick a video to view from the start.
In the current world of Video On Demand and Â鶹ԼÅÄ iPlayer, this just won't do. Â鶹ԼÅÄ iPlayer for example, is streamed to Freesat IP-enabled devices so you can pick and choose which video to watch, whenever you want it to start playing. We wanted to offer more of these services to Freesat users but first we had to provide a gateway, hence we re-designed the Red Button Â鶹ԼÅÄpage.
If your box is connected to the internet and you press red from a Â鶹ԼÅÄ channel you'll now be taken to our new Â鶹ԼÅÄpage, with links to Â鶹ԼÅÄ iPlayer Beta and other recently launched video based services such as the World Cup, Glastonbury and Comedy.
We've changed the Â鶹ԼÅÄpage to include an On Now tab, as well as an Index for all our Freesat content. 'On Now' will focus on highlighting our scheduled video based services, or for pointing you in the direction of our most popular permanently available content. We've also included room here for a short description of the service, as opposed to an ambiguous one word title.
Â鶹ԼÅÄ Red Button Connected Â鶹ԼÅÄpage: On Now
The 'Index' will continue to list all of our content services; you'll be able to seamlessly access Red Button content delivered by both satellite and the internet.
Â鶹ԼÅÄ Red Button Connected Â鶹ԼÅÄpage: Index
What's next?
We'll be bringing new video based services to Freesat, who so far have not been able to access scheduled video based services which users of other digital TV platforms are able to enjoy.
We're also beginning to develop the Connected Â鶹ԼÅÄpage for the Freeview HD set top boxes which are able to work with an internet connection. We aim to have this available in early 2011.
Meanwhile we'd love to hear what you think of the new look homepage, so if you have any problems or suggestions for future improvements, please leave a comment below.
Merv Hart is Development Producer, Â鶹ԼÅÄ FM&T TV Platforms.
Comment number 1.
At 26th Nov 2010, Briantist wrote:I know I've mentioned this before, but being able to access the whole of the news stories would be an excellent service.
There should be a facility, when you've read one of the news stories, to be able to continue reading after the "brief" version of the story provided over "the air".
This would stop the "Red Button" service seeming like a second-class "tabloid" service.
Please.
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Comment number 2.
At 26th Nov 2010, KernowChris wrote:When the Freeview service is prepared, is there any chance of sending via IPTV the streams that due to bandwidth constraints aren't available OTA on the platform?
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Comment number 3.
At 26th Nov 2010, Briantist wrote:@ChrisCornwall: It's not bandwidth, it's GeoIP for rights reasons.
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Comment number 4.
At 26th Nov 2010, Kevin wrote:I use the Iplayer with my Humax Freesat box regularly, it works well.
Slightly off topic, I would like to know when the travel news on page 430 will be added to the Freesat Red Button pages
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Comment number 5.
At 26th Nov 2010, KernowChris wrote:#2 #3 I should have been clearer I meant Video Red Button streams.
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Comment number 6.
At 27th Nov 2010, James wrote:I agree with @ChrisCornwall I would also like to see these services on IPTV's (e.g. Sony Bravia and Samsung Internet@TV) which already have access to the iPlayer Beta, as well as Freeview HD set top boxes.
I also think the bandwidth constraint he was talking about was the UHF Frequency and not the internet/network.
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Comment number 7.
At 27th Nov 2010, meedh70 wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 8.
At 28th Nov 2010, frankh58 wrote:This may not be an appropriate comment for this particular post but I can't find anywhere else to ask. A few months ago I bought a flat screen TV with built in HD freesat receiver built in. It gets Â鶹ԼÅÄ HD channel 50 very well. But now I hear announcements that "this programme is also on Â鶹ԼÅÄ 1 HD channel" but if I change to Channel 50 sommething else is there. Help!
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Comment number 9.
At 30th Nov 2010, Nick Reynolds wrote:frank58 - you are indeed off topic.
Try these links:
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Comment number 10.
At 30th Nov 2010, Merv wrote:Thanks for the comments folks, I’ll answer one by one.
Braintist, I’m afraid that feature isn’t likely to be coming any time soon. TVs are a great medium for watching video, but it’s just OK for reading text. We’ve tested adding longer articles to areas of the Red Button service but they haven’t been well received, as when you need to press down to see the next page 20 or so times, it becomes tiresome. We’d rather focus on the platform’s strengths, and leave full news articles to the Â鶹ԼÅÄ website.
ChrisCornwall and James, there are no current plans to replace those broadcast streams with IPTV streams. However we will be rolling out new video based services on Freeview HD next year, which will be delivered over IP.
Kevin, I don’t have any specific information on that I’m afraid, other than we do intend to increase our Freesat content offering in the future, and I’ll pass on your request for this section in particular.
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Comment number 11.
At 1st Dec 2010, Brekkie wrote:Are the additional video streams you mention in the "What next?" section broadcast or IP based. If broadcast, good to see a long standing issue being addressed.
Love the idea of the hybrid for on demand content - just a shame that broadband speeds are still not up to scratch for everyone to use the service in the manner it's intended. Will the iPlayer on Freesat/Freeview just offer streaming content, or will you be able to download content to your hard drive - so those of us with speeds which can't handle the streaming can at least do that?
Such services too have to complement interactive streams delivered through digital TV - rather than replace them. Although the content offered through the News Multiscreen and looped recorded content, such as the radio performances, are obviously more effectively delivered via IPTV, for live content you can't beat good old fashioned 21st century television!
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Comment number 12.
At 3rd Dec 2010, Merv wrote:Brekkie, great questions, thanks. These new video services won’t have live stream capability right now, but it is an ambition to develop services with both live and complimentary ‘best of’ video content. We’ll be looking to support live IP streaming as and when this is offered by Internet-connected TV platforms, and we believe that it can be done at good value for money.
I’m not part of the Â鶹ԼÅÄ iPlayer team so please don’t take this as verbatim as I’m speculating: I would be very surprised if we’re able to offer iPlayer download functionality. Regarding Freesat and Freeview platforms, the MHEG spec doesn’t support downloading. For other platforms, the problem is that there are many bespoke solutions to downloading to PVRs and it would be a huge job to develop for each individual platform. I can’t say it won’t happen in the future as your reasoning is spot on, but as it’s a difficult and lengthy development job I wouldn’t expect it any time soon.
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Comment number 13.
At 6th Dec 2010, neil201 wrote:To echo Brekkies comments it's really good that the additional broadcast video streams are now being added to bring Freesat's red button offering up to the same level as that of Sky's platform.
There's recently been a new channel appear on Freesat which has red button links to a mosaic with various video streams and works well, just as the Â鶹ԼÅÄ multiscreen feeds do on Sky and other platforms. I assume therefore that the necessary MHEG5 code to make all this happen within Freesat has already been written, just a case of integrating this in to the existing over-air content?
Being able to deliver extra on-demand content via IP is also a good move. Unfortunately my Panasonic TV hadn't received it's iPlayer update last June so missed the opportunity to check out the extra World Cup and Glastonbury video streams.
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Comment number 14.
At 6th Dec 2010, Brekkie wrote:Thanks for your response Merv. That's the disadvantage I guess of not having a standard manufacturer in the way Sky and Virgin too - it makes such upgrades a much more complex problem. The flip side though of course is the competition between manufacturers does bring down prices - though unfortunately that generally means set top boxes are not exactly future proof, which is one reason why I'm waiting to see what happens with YouView on Freeview before upgrading to HD.
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Comment number 15.
At 8th Dec 2010, VeniVediVocali wrote:I presume this is the answer to the issue of the Â鶹ԼÅÄ Red Button and the fact that a lot of this is not available on Freesat. See for instance the page below and all that is not available on Freesat.
/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/12/whats_on_bbc_red_button_20th_n_2.html
Therefore, can I presume that there will be an implementation of all of these eventually on Freesat via IPTV and that we will finally get the Â鶹ԼÅÄ news multiscreen (or at least the feeds from it)?
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Comment number 16.
At 12th Dec 2010, KyleRickards wrote:Further to post 15 above, am I correct in thinking where previously much content was "not available on freesat" I can now get this content using my Humax and Internet connection as I currently view iplayer? (for example content like the additional Buzzcocks material)
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Comment number 17.
At 12th Dec 2010, f1doppelganger wrote:I hope this comes to Freeview. While you've said it can't carry live streams, the 'extra content' facility could be good for Formula One coverage. For instance, the driver interviews after qualifying or the race could be included, even though they'd be recorded. Or ar there issues with 'on demand' rights there ? You could also include interviews normally on seen on the web, or again, would there be issues with your rights to show 'on demand' coverage ?
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Comment number 18.
At 13th Dec 2010, petrev wrote:Thanks for the FreeviewHD info. I just recently (after this blog was posted first)asked about MHEG FreeviewHD iPlayer and a member of the Â鶹ԼÅÄ iPlayer Support team replied they had no information at present. Good to know something and that at least you "aim to have this available in early 2011".
Can I ask, will this FreeviewHD service use the H264 streams and have the iPlayer HD channel and content (or at least the "HD version also available" option) ? As this new roll out will be for FreeviewHD boxes this should not be a problem for them ! ? ?
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Comment number 19.
At 14th Dec 2010, phil wrote:I have just been using iplayer on my parents freesat box and the picture is very good. My only gripe is that there are no radio channels listed in iplayer, are you planning to add them soon? (also adding radio Scotland to iplayer on iPhone/iPod touch would be very welcome)
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Comment number 20.
At 5th Jan 2011, pricetamer wrote:I wondered why you chose to develop the functionality for Freesat first before Freeview HD? I don't have any stats to hand on the use of the two but looking at the availability of TV sets on the TV price comparison site www.buydigitaltv.co.uk, it seems that Freeview HD is pretty much standard on TVs of say £500+, but integrated Freesat on current models is limited to just a handful of Panasonics.
Wouldn't more people benefit, and quicker if the Freeview HD development work had been prioritised? I fully support the use and promotion of Freesat of course, but as has been proved time and time before, unless there is the right combination of hardware and software/media even the most admirable ventures can fail.
Nb is there an update as to when it is available on Freeview HD now that we're actually in 2011 of course!? :)
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