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Why drones are so important in the war for both Ukraine and Russia.

How do drones work? Who makes them? And, crucially, who鈥檚 winning the drone production race?

The 麻豆约拍鈥檚 Security Correspondent Frank Gardner and Dr Marina Miron from King鈥檚 College London talk us through it all.

And, Politico journalist Eva Hartog gives her fist interview after being kicked out of Russia following a decade of living and reporting from Moscow.

Today鈥檚 episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko.

The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Paige Neal-Holder and Ivana Davidovic. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480.

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast鈥檚 Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord.

TOPICS:

00:04 - Viktoria Kovalenko
03:23 - Drone warfare
09:45 - Listener questions
15:30 - Eva Hartog

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