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Proper Football with Lee Dixon

Lee Dixon tells Kammy and Ben which Arsenal Invincible was terrible in training, how the rivalry with Man Utd developed and why Paul Gascoigne was brilliant both and off the pitch

Former Arsenal and England defender Lee Dixon is this week's guest and you can listen to it first on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Sounds.

He takes Kammy and Ben inside his time at Arsenal, from joining the club under George Graham to winning the league title on that epic night at Anfield in 1989 and then working under Arsene Wenger as he transformed the club. He also discusses why he thinks Wenger got under Sir Alex Ferguson's skin, whether the Tuesday Club was really that bad and recalls the time Gazza decided to wear everyone's clothes at England training.

Meanwhile, Kammy reveals a little known fact about himself and has to decide whether a Chelsea fan who missed matches because of the rain deserves to be forgiven in Father Kammy. If you want to share your guilty secret, e-mail us at kammyandben@bbc.co.uk or contact the guys on Twitter: @chris_kammy @BenShephard with #fatherkammy.

Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ Sounds is the best place to listen to Kammy and Ben's Proper Football Podcast with new episodes available first, a month before anywhere else.

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