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Dr Julia Shaw and comedian Sofie Hagen speak to Gordon Corera, Â鶹ԼÅÄ’s Security Correspondent as well as the Security Consultant on Killing Eve.

Gordon knows a lot about the real world of assassins and spies as he’s reported on it for many years. In this special episode he tells us just how much of Killing Eve is based on real life truths and events. How many assassins are really out there? What is the difference between an assassin and a contract killer? And who creates the fake identities that spies have?

They also discuss ‘dry cleaning’, secret recording devices and why it is probably harder to recruit spies today than it might have been in the past.

CREDITS
Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen
Producer: Simona Rata
Music: Matt Chandler
Editor: Rami Tzabar
Academic Consultants for The Open University: Lara Frumkin and James Munro
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Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland
Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins
Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a Â鶹ԼÅÄ Audio Science Production for Â鶹ԼÅÄ Sounds.