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Non-binary artist India Jordan tells Shane and Chelcee why they believe a true Queer utopia is only possible if its citizens abolish the gender binary. They’ve devised some radical ideas for how such a society would work.

Having only spoken publicly about their gender identity within the past two years, India explains why they felt compelled to do so and why their ideas for Queertopia are based on these personal experiences.

The electronic music producer has a close connection to the podcast: they made the soundtrack! ‘Dear Nan King’ was inspired by a formative experience as a teenager (and a Â鶹ԼÅÄ drama series). In this episode, India explains why they thought it was perfect for Building Queertopia.

The hope for Shane and Chelcee is that in the process of building this fictional paradise, they might just hit on ways to make reality that little bit better for…everyone.

Want to have a say? Email buildingqueertopia@bbc.co.uk