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Newcastle-based gaming journalist Ben Potter (from TripleJump Podcast) takes over our feed to tell two very different stories of turning a passion for playing games… into actually making the next hit titles. He meets Patrick Fenn (Gearbox) and Chris Bulch (Shame, Intercontinental) to hear about their journeys.

Original Pilot Material is a podcast from Â鶹ԼÅÄ The Social, giving a platform to the next generation of podcast and audio talent, telling stories and investigating the issues that matter to them the most. This series (our third!) is all about gaming, if you enjoyed this check out some other episodes in this series and other areas of life in our previous two series, and you might just find your new favourite story-teller.

This episode was written and presented by Ben Potter
Produced by Ally McCrae & Ross Semple & Jordan Middler
Senior Producers are Kirsty Drain & Paul McFadyen
Exec Producer is Anthony Browne

Original Pilot Material is a podcast for Â鶹ԼÅÄ Sounds from the team behind Â鶹ԼÅÄ The Social, the award winning new talent platform from Â鶹ԼÅÄ Scotland.

Live in the UK and want to pitch an idea?
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