麻豆约拍

Elif Shafak understands the challenges of public intellectual life: she was wrongly accused of "public denigration of Turkishness" for her novel The Bastard of Istanbul. Here, she talks to Heather McDaid, founder of new Scottish publishing company 404 Ink and co-editor of Nasty Women, an anthology of essays about women in the 21st century. Joining them is Scotland鈥檚 First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, whose life is lived in the spotlight.

Recorded at the Edinburgh International Book Festival.