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David Neal was sacked last month from his job as Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration for leaking details of critical reports which ministers had not published. In his first broadcast interview since then he tells Amol and Nick why he thinks the Â鶹ԼÅÄ Office is dysfunctional and in need of urgent reform.

He adds that since his dismissal there is now no one in place to monitor how ministers implement the Rwanda plan, if it goes ahead.

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The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson, both presenters of Â鶹ԼÅÄ Radio 4’s Today programme, the UK’s most influential radio news programme. Amol was the Â鶹ԼÅÄ’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the Â鶹ԼÅÄ’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor.

The senior producer is Tom Smithard, the producers are Hazel Morgan and Joe Wilkinson. The editor is Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths. Technical production from Matt Hewitt. Digital production from Elliot Ryder.