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The iconic Michelle Visage sits down for a one-to-one encounter with one of her favourite rule breakers - the comedian, actress and author Dawn French.

You don鈥檛 get to be one of British comedy鈥檚 most cherished faces without being bold and brave enough to do a few things your way. From performing those first sketches in strip clubs with her good friend Jennifer to making TV history as French and Saunders, Dawn tells Michelle how her original career plans had to take a back seat for her big break.

So how did Dawn realise she was funny? Where did her enduring self-belief and endearing self-deprecation come from? And how do you survive getting vertigo on stage?

Michelle and Dawn go deep on Dawn鈥檚 early comedy career and celebrate the joy of making mistakes and embracing the grey. Plus Dawn shares some solid life advice for all the rebels and rule breakers in training out there.

Producers: Sarah Jane Griffiths and Rema Mukena
Editor: James Cook