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Two new novels - The Startup Wife by Tahmima Anam and Black Buck by Mateo Askaripour - are set in the fast, frenzied, heady world of new tech companies. Tahmima and Mateo join Johny Pitts to talk about bringing this world to life and why both of their fictional apps appeal to the spiritual side of human nature.
Also on the programme, our monthly editor's pick: this month the recommendation is a book about sibling relationships and turning 40 as your Mum is turning 65; and crime writer Will Dean and deaf blogger Deafinitely Girly discuss their working relationship - she is one of Will's first readers, as his central character, Tuva Moodyson, is deaf.

Book List – Sunday 30 May and Thursday 3 June

The Startup Wife by Tahmima Anam
The Black Buck by Mateo Askaripour
Grown Ups by Marie Aubert, translated by Rosie Hedger
Bad Apples by Will Dean
Dark Pines by Will Dean
Black River by Will Dean
Deaf Sentence by David Lodge