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Wearing denim, workwear or sharp tailoring makes a statement about how we think of ourselves. Charlie Porter has been exploring the relationship between artists and clothes. He joins writer Olivia Laing and Ekow Eshun for a conversation about clothing, bodies and our expression of our sexuality hosted by Shahidha Bari.

Olivia Laing's latest book is called Everybody: A Book about Freedom
Charlie Porter has published What Artists Wear. A former Turner prize judge, he writes and curates and is a visiting lecturer on Fashion at the University of Westminster.
British-Ghanaian photographer James Barnor's work is on show at the Serpentine Gallery in London from 19th May - 22nd October 2021.
Ekow Eshun has curated An Infinity of Traces which runs at the Lisson Gallery in London from 13 April – 5 June 2021 featuring UK-based established and emerging Black artists whose work explores notions of race, history, being and belonging.
Jade Montserrat, one of the artists featured in Ekow's show talked to Free Thinking in the programme we made about collage and Dada /programmes/m000k9ws

Producer: Emma Wallace

You can find more conversations in the Free Thinking archive and available to download as Arts & Ideas podcasts including
Olivia Laing on her novel inspired by Kathy Acker and a discussion of Alison Bechdel's Fun Â鶹ԼÅÄ /programmes/b0b7mryz
The body past and present discussed by painter Chantal Joffe, historian Catherine Fletcher and philosopher Heather Widdows /programmes/b0b7my7k
Fashion stories in museums with guests including V&A curator Claire Wilcox /programmes/m000s2by
JJ Bola, Derek Owusu and Ben Lerner on The changing image of masculinity /programmes/m000b0mx
How do we build a new masculinity ? Sunil Gupta, CN Lester, Tom Shakespeare and Alona Pardo /programmes/m000gm6h
The politics of fashion and drag with Scrumbly Koldewyn and a report from the Royal Vauxhall Tavern /programmes/b09zcjch

Image Credit: Getty Images/Jonathan Knowles