麻豆约拍

Anne McElvoy presents the debate programme which invites two public figures who disagree on an issue of principle to listen closely to each other's arguments - and then to find out what drives them.

In this edition, Anne is joined by Claire Fox of the Institute of Ideas and ex-Justice Secretary David Gauke, to debate whether we need to learn to live with more risk.

And Anne works with conflict resolution specialist Gabrielle Rifkind to foster a more exploratory conversation, to encourage both speakers to probe the values and experiences that underpin each other's beliefs.

Producer: Phil Tinline