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Phoebe Judge is the host and creator of two independently-produced shows, Criminal and This Is Love, which are part of the Radiotopia podcast network. Her favourite thing in the world is to ask questions.

Phoebe got her start in radio in 2007, covering a Nantucket murder trial whilst still an intern. Since then, she’s reported from all over the world, and produced and hosted shows on National Public Radio.

When Phoebe decided to make Criminal, with Lauren Spohrer, the podcasting landscape was very different - Serial hadn’t yet launched never mind become a cultural phenomenon. They began making Criminal in their free time, finding real characters – scammers, scoundrels and crime fighters – and asking why they do what they do.

In 2018 Phoebe celebrated the 100th episode of Criminal, with the tale of Martin McNally, whose decision to hijack a plane led to an extraordinary series of events. She also launched a second podcast, This Is Love, on Valentine’s Day.

The podcast shares tales of love, in all its varieties, and the third season led Phoebe to Italy, where she spent ten days capturing cats, priceless violins, and communities who share a passion. We play the first episode, Ugly Club, in which Phoebe heads to the small town of Piobbico, where everyone is a member of the Club dei Brutti.

Presented and produced by Ali Gardiner.

Made for Â鶹ԼÅÄ Radio 4 Extra in 2019.