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The Prophet Mohammed
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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by TimDTraveller (U16208156) on Wednesday, 7th January 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?
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Message 2
Posted by rhmnney (U14528380) on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Maybe a figure of speech.
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Message 3
Posted by Andy (U14048329) on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Jesus is usually referred to as Jesus Christ or just Christ, which seems perfectly analogous to The Prophet Mohammed. It ensures that no-one gets them confused with Jesus Navas the footballer or Muhammad Ali the boxer.
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Message 4
Posted by tumteatum (U15488526) on Thursday, 8th January 2015
We discussed this in our household last night. In the end we tied ourselves up in knots as to how you would refer to similar in other religions. I do prefer "The Islamic prophet Mohammed" than "The Prophet Mohammed"
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Message 5
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Jesus is usually referred to as Jesus Christ or just Christ, which seems perfectly analogous to The Prophet Mohammed. It ensures that no-one gets them confused with Jesus Navas the footballer or Muhammad Ali the boxer.Μύ That's easy. When you are talking about Ali you simply refer to him as "The Greatest".
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Message 6
Posted by The Accidental Poster (U16207190) on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Buddha?
The Dalai Lama?
The Pope?
We often do it with religious leaders all the time. I see no problem. -
Message 7
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Buddha?
The Dalai Lama?
The Pope?
We often do it with religious leaders all the time. I see no problem.Μύ Tremendous Knowledge Dave -
Message 8
Posted by AlexeiF (U15025804) on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Jesus is usually referred to as Jesus Christ or just Christ, which seems perfectly analogous to The Prophet Mohammed. It ensures that no-one gets them confused with Jesus Navas the footballer or Muhammad Ali the boxer.Μύ That's easy. When you are talking about Ali you simply refer to him as "The Greatest".
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Have never heard him referred to solely as 'Muhammad', always 'Muhammad Ali'. Or Cassius Clay, you say butter, I say Parkay 
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Message 9
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Thursday, 8th January 2015
I loved how Joe Frazier would always refer to him as simply "Clay" even after he changed his name. Just to wind him up.
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Message 10
Posted by AlexeiF (U15025804) on Thursday, 8th January 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it....Μύ A certain Livingstone K. does it alot, also 'the Holy Koran', though I suppose religious types sometimes use 'the Holy Bible'. Thankfully he doesn't work for the Beeb anyway.
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Message 11
Posted by Andy (U14048329) on Friday, 9th January 2015
I loved how Joe Frazier would always refer to him as simply "Clay" even after he changed his name. Just to wind him up.
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Yeah....Ernie Terrell made that mistake..... -
Message 12
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 21st February 2015
Buddha?
The Dalai Lama?
The Pope?
We often do it with religious leaders all the time. I see no problem.Μύ Those are not claims. They are titles.
' The Buddha ' is an honorific
The Dalai Lama is another honorific
' Pope' means Father
' Prophet 'is a claim to divine revelation, and carries the implication that the user accepts the validity of the Koran. -
Message 13
Posted by Chris Huenemoerder (U16227413) on Saturday, 21st February 2015
Buddha?
The Dalai Lama?
The Pope?
We often do it with religious leaders all the time. I see no problem.Μύ Those are not claims. They are titles.
' The Buddha ' is an honorific
The Dalai Lama is another honorific
' Pope' means Father
' Prophet 'is a claim to divine revelation, and carries the implication that the user accepts the validity of the Koran.Μύ The prophet is a title given, to one who has what one might say, has the 'gift' (whatever that may mean) of prophecy. It might mean that they are able to interpret divine signs and messages.
In the case of Islam, the term has a very specific meaning and is applied to a number of historical figures, Old Testament and New Testament, culminating with the Prophet Muhammad.
The Buddha means 'Enlightened One', a very specific term in Buddhism, which has only been achieved by a few in history.
The Dalai Lama is indeed a title given to one who, in one branch of Buddhism, is seen as a living manifestation of the Buddha of Compassion Avalokiteshvara (or Chenrezig).
The Pope is a title given to the Bishop of Rome who, in the Roman Catholic tradition has ecclesiastical primacy.
Each has a title which has meaning within its own religious tradition, is primarily defined to be understood within the context of that religion. None of them are purely secular titles. The Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ consistently - and neutrally - recognises the title. -
Message 14
Posted by Chris Huenemoerder (U16227413) on Saturday, 21st February 2015
That should, of course, say '**initially** in the Old and New Testaments, (later) culminating with the the Prophet Muhammad.
To show what I mean, here is a list of Prophets mentioned in the Qur'an, though they teach that there are others:
Most of them will be familiar in Christianity and Judaism. -
Message 15
Posted by kencal (U16244338) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Also, when it comes to Christianity being blasphemed, ridiculed and joked about in its programming does the Beeb allow any other religion to be treated in the same way?
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Message 16
Posted by Vox_Populi (U3226170) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?Μύ Probably because if they just said the name "Mohamed", that could probably apply to about a dozen blokes living down the road, not to mention how many live in the UK.
Why not say "The Prophet Jesus" then?, probably because there is only one "Jesus" and none living down the road, not to mention the rest of the UK.
Simples!!!!!
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Message 17
Posted by Cyril-Furr (U10382673) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?Μύ Probably because if they just said the name "Mohamed", that could probably apply to about a dozen blokes living down the road, not to mention how many live in the UK.
Why not say "The Prophet Jesus" then?, probably because there is only one "Jesus" and none living down the road, not to mention the rest of the UK.
Simples!!!!!Μύ
Actually, not quite true - I have met a few Americans, based in the UK of that name (Jesus) 
But, I expect there are a lot more Mohammed's - should we be surprised? -
Message 18
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Anyone who lives near a family of Spanish origin may well have a neighbour called Jesus.
The reason that the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be calling the founder of Islam a prophet is because it is an act of hypocrisy for a non Muslim to do so.
To A Christian or Jew he was not a prophet.
To an atheist the very idea of prophethood is meaningless. -
Message 19
Posted by Chris Huenemoerder (U16227413) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
No, it is not. It is simply a mark of respect.
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Message 20
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I have no respect for someone who married a nine year old and who beheaded personally scores of captives.
Neither should the British Broadcasting Corporation. -
Message 21
Posted by Andy (U14048329) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I have no respect for someone who married a nine year old and who beheaded personally scores of captives.
Neither should the British Broadcasting Corporation.Μύ That'd go for a fair number of English kings as well then...... -
Message 22
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I have no respect for someone who married a nine year old and who beheaded personally scores of captives.
Neither should the British Broadcasting Corporation.Μύ That'd go for a fair number of English kings as well then......Μύ It certainly would if the corporation was in the habit of calling them The Prophet Henry Or the Prophet Richard or whatever.. -
Message 23
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?Μύ Probably because if they just said the name "Mohamed", that could probably apply to about a dozen blokes living down the road, not to mention how many live in the UK.
Why not say "The Prophet Jesus" then?, probably because there is only one "Jesus" and none living down the road, not to mention the rest of the UK.
Simples!!!!!Μύ
There are thousands of guys in the US named Jesus.
There is a longtime Chicago politician named Jesus Garcia who is running for Mayor of Chicago. -
Message 24
Posted by Vox_Populi (U3226170) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?Μύ Probably because if they just said the name "Mohamed", that could probably apply to about a dozen blokes living down the road, not to mention how many live in the UK.
Why not say "The Prophet Jesus" then?, probably because there is only one "Jesus" and none living down the road, not to mention the rest of the UK.
Simples!!!!!Μύ
There are thousands of guys in the US named Jesus.
There is a longtime Chicago politician named Jesus Garcia who is running for Mayor of Chicago.Μύ There are a lot of Spanish people with the Christian name of Jesus, which is pronounced "Heyzuse" not sure if that's the correct spelling, but you get the idea.
However in Britain there are no white British people with the Christian name of Jesus, none that I've ever come across anyway. -
Message 25
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?Μύ Probably because if they just said the name "Mohamed", that could probably apply to about a dozen blokes living down the road, not to mention how many live in the UK.
Why not say "The Prophet Jesus" then?, probably because there is only one "Jesus" and none living down the road, not to mention the rest of the UK.
Simples!!!!!Μύ
There are thousands of guys in the US named Jesus.
There is a longtime Chicago politician named Jesus Garcia who is running for Mayor of Chicago.Μύ There are a lot of Spanish people with the Christian name of Jesus, which is pronounced "Heyzuse" not sure if that's the correct spelling, but you get the idea.
However in Britain there are no white British people with the Christian name of Jesus, none that I've ever come across anyway.Μύ Are saying you that Spanish people are not white ? Because there are a number of British people of Spanish decent called Jesus...I have worked with two such. -
Message 26
Posted by Vox_Populi (U3226170) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Why does the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ continue to call Mohammed 'The Prophet Mohammed' in its news bulletins? Use of the title 'The Prophet' is a subjective term and the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ should not be using it. I never hear Jesus being called 'Jesus the Son of God' or 'Jesus' the Messiah', so why is special status accorded to the Islamic prophet by the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? Why not use the name 'The Islamic prophet Mohammed' as I was pleased to hear on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ radio 2 earlier today?Μύ Probably because if they just said the name "Mohamed", that could probably apply to about a dozen blokes living down the road, not to mention how many live in the UK.
Why not say "The Prophet Jesus" then?, probably because there is only one "Jesus" and none living down the road, not to mention the rest of the UK.
Simples!!!!!Μύ
There are thousands of guys in the US named Jesus.
There is a longtime Chicago politician named Jesus Garcia who is running for Mayor of Chicago.Μύ There are a lot of Spanish people with the Christian name of Jesus, which is pronounced "Heyzuse" not sure if that's the correct spelling, but you get the idea.
However in Britain there are no white British people with the Christian name of Jesus, none that I've ever come across anyway.Μύ Are saying you that Spanish people are not white ? Because there are a number of British people of Spanish decent called Jesus...I have worked with two such.Μύ ........and they didn't pronounce their names as Jesus, did they?. As for being white, I should have written "Anglo Saxon" instead of white, there's always one who likes to nit-pick on here. -
Message 27
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I don't think that's nit-picking at all frankly.
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Message 28
Posted by Vox_Populi (U3226170) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I don't think that's nit-picking at all frankly.Μύ Well as a nit-picker you wouldn't know when you're nit-picking, would you. Take it from me, you're definitely a nit-picker. and a WUM.
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Message 29
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Bump.
This is your post. You were wrong. There is not just one Jesus. You are annoyed because this was pointed out to you. Nothing to do with WUMS.
You then went on to imply that Spanish people are not caucasians. You were wrong again.
You then compounded that by assuming that all white British people are Anglo- Saxon..wrong again.
Nothing to do with nitpicking or WUMMING. -
Message 30
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Message 31
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Heyzuse is how Spanish people pronounce Jesus Vox.
Whether they are talking about a boys name or Jesus Christ.
Its one in the same.
They are often called Chuy as a nickname. -
Message 32
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Message 33
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Message 34
Posted by Vox_Populi (U3226170) ** on Sunday, 8th March 2015
Bump.
This is your post. You were wrong. There is not just one Jesus. You are annoyed because this was pointed out to you. Nothing to do with WUMS.
You then went on to imply that Spanish people are not caucasians. You were wrong again.
You then compounded that by assuming that all white British people are Anglo- Saxon..wrong again.
Nothing to do with nitpicking or WUMMING.Μύ Not at all, there are no white/British people of Anglo Saxon descent that are called Jesus.
The son of God is actually called David. You heard it here first.
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