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A Pan European model of the Neolithic

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  Posted by henvell (U1781664) on Wednesday, 25th August 2010

  The calibrated Neolithic dates for European archaeological sites,which were associated with the spread of early pottery and farming,were used to create models of migration patterns.The eastern
  chronology is not compatible with a single wave of western expansion during the Neolithic.The authors postulated that people spread westward through a conduit between the Ural Mountains and the Caspian Sea ca 1.5Ka before farmers moved to Greece and points west from the Near East /Fertile Cresent. The early Yelshanian culture,ceramic sites in the vast steppe lands between the Lower Volga and Ural fluvial systems date to ca 8000 BCE and the tradition peaked ca 7000 BCE.The ancient La Hoguette and Roucadour groups in NE France and Germany made pottery,but were not primarly farmers.
  
  Is there any genetic data to support this theory?The article by
  K Davison et al [2007] is a free download.

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  Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Wednesday, 25th August 2010

  henvell,
  
  is it this URL that you mean?
  
  History is quite a science...
  On a French messageboard they are sceptic not about the science but more about the "theories" and the "bias" as for instance in a thread of the spread of the Indogermans and the spread in the Neolithicum...
  
  Kind regards,
  
  Paul.

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  Posted by Nik (U1777139) on Friday, 27th August 2010

  Very interesting. But then the reference to just 2 motions seems to me quite less than the reality we see even today. Europe was "filled" in successive waves as that was represented in the different anthropologic tribes presented. While the definition of an anthropologic tribe is not exact among anthropologists (since division can go on to as much detail as possible), the minimum anthropoligic tribes recognised are the following:
  
  Mediterraneans, Alpics, Nordics, Dinarics, Baltics, Armenoids
  
  Out of the above populations' mixtures historic as well as modern tribes derive. If we take into account that Armenoids remained in the east fringes of Europe around Caucasus then we have to speak for at least 4 waves of "filling" Europe with humans.

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  Posted by lolbeeble (U1662865) on Friday, 27th August 2010

  The big problem is finding genetic data that corresponds to the populations involved in the early migrations. Wolfgang Haak and colleagues' 2005 study of mitochondrial genetic material from LBK burials in Central Europe (Ancient DNA from the First European Farmers in 7500-Year-Old Neolithic Sites) identified some nineteen different haplotype lineages. Whether farming spread to this region from South Eastern Europe and Anaotolia or through the Taurus mountains it is incontrovertible that further advances into North Western Europe are associated with LBK expansion. Their attention was drawn to the unusually high frequency of the N1a haplotype that is rare in modern European populations yet was found in six out of the twenty four individuals that yealded DNA, not simply from one settlement where it might represent a single family group but across a range of burial locations. The same lineage has also been discovered in a French Megalithic tomb by Marie-France Deguilloux and colleagues. Closely related strands of the same N1a grouping also appear in unusually high frequencies in several areas connected to the Steppes, appearing in Iran, Indian High caste populations as well being found among the Takla Makan mummies.
  
  Oddly enough the 2005 study also suggested that the N1a haplotype found in modern Central and Western Europeans has a lineage distinct from that found in Greece and Turkey.

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