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Pandora's Box

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  Posted by owengriffiths2009 (U14190453) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

  We understand that Pandors's box was a box full of evil! but were did this box come from did cleopatra didnt aquire the box from the local ASDA store. So what was it a gift from the gods or was it unearthed from some tomb?

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  Posted by Nik (U1777139) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

  I think the god who gave it to dear Dora, is dead by now. Go to sleep.

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  Posted by lolbeeble (U1662865) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  Blimey, have you just been dumped or something? Considering the stories ubiquity it might be profitable to look it up using a search engine, otherwise try this.
  
  

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  Posted by mark-piper (U14202826) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man, as a punishment, Zeus had Hephaistos 'mix earth and water, and to put in it a voice and human power to move, to make a face like an immortal goddess ... Hermes the Messenger put in her breast cunning ways; The herald of the gods then named the girl Pandora, for the gifts which all the gods had given her, this ruin of mankind.'
  Humans had until then 'lived upon the earth apart from sorrow and painful work, free from disease ... but now the woman opened uo the cask, and scattered pains and evils among men. Inside the cask's hard walls remaind one thing, Hope, which did not fly through the door. The lid stopped her, but all the others flew, thousands of troubles, wandering the Earth.'
  
  Hesiod 'Work and Days' (66-104)

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  Posted by owengriffiths2009 (U14190453) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  I didnt ask who gave it pandora I asked who gave it cleopatra!!

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  Posted by Stoggler (U1647829) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  Cleopatra? Am confused now. How did Cleopatra's name get attached to Pandora's box?

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  Posted by lolbeeble (U1662865) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  I should imagine the Florida licensing authority are your best bet for information.
  
  Anyway, it might be an idea to explain the reasons behind your decision to use the myth of Pandora in relation to Cleopatra. The view of women's irrational emotional behaviour acting as a general drain on male energies certainly can be seen as a continuous thread in classical literature. Vergil's depiction of Dido, reputedly modeled on Cleopatra, as well as Augustus own premable to his marriage laws both echo Hesiod's view of the race of women. It strikes me that if you are to believe that the breakdown in relations between Octavian and Marc Anthony that culminated in the battle of Actium was the result of Cleopatra's feminine wiles then it would appear you have fallen for Octavian's propaganda.

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  Posted by cloudyj (U1773646) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  We understand that Pandors's boxΒ 
  
  We? Personally I've always thought of it as a fictional plot device in a cationary tale warning of the dangers of being overly nosey, combined with a primitive attempt to explpain why the world was as it was.
  
  Any real box which acquired that name I'd say was knocked up by a merchant hoping to cash in on a popular story. Much in the same way as Disney sells Mickey Mouse toys based on its films, and at least the Disney relics are authentic.

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  Posted by Frank Parker (U7843825) on Thursday, 5th November 2009

  Cue Andrew Host to come in and close this thread which has nothing whatsoever to do with history (like the other one he closed!)

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  Posted by owengriffiths2009 (U14190453) on Friday, 6th November 2009

  haha!! we are discussing histroy, Obs its a ledgend but all ledgends have some truth behind it. and pluss it is history it happend in da past

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  Posted by Stoggler (U1647829) on Friday, 6th November 2009

  Having trouble reading your posts Owen, but Pandora's Box on it's own is not history, it's a myth - therefore it was not a real box or jar, there was not someone called Pandora who opened such a receptacle and released all of humanity's ills. Pandora's box per se is not history.

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  Posted by TonyG (U1830405) on Friday, 6th November 2009

  It may be myth, but the generation of myths is interesting from a historical perspective. The attitude of the Greeks and Romans towards their own myths is also fascinating, They seem to have accepted the myths as fact at one level while knowing they could not possibly be true at another.
  
  Every Greek or Roman would know about Prometheus and the fate decreed where he was chained to a rock and had his liver pecked out by an eagle each day. However simple-minded some of them may hav ebeen, even the dullest of them must have known this was impossible, yet they would happily perpetuate the story. Then again, I suppose the modern myth of Santa Claus would fall into the same category.
  
  As for Cleopatra obtaining Pandora's box, that's a new one on me.

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