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Dubbing knights

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    Posted by Anglo-Norman (U1965016) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    Does anyone know when a knight being dubbed started getting a tap on the shoulders with a sword, instead of a clout about the head?

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    Posted by an ex-nordmann - it has ceased to exist (U3472955) on Friday, 16th October 2009

    When the church got in on the act.

    Dubbing (as in the "drubbing" you describe) was a peculiarly Norman thing. Other parts of Europe favoured the "accolade". In England and France, once the church insisted on "approving" the ceremony, the "accolade" prevailed though for a while the ceremony retained a slap in the face (called a "collee") in addition to the tapping of the sword on the shoulders.

    The earliest recorded dubbing in church-approved style but without direct church involvement is of Geoffrey (the Fair) of Anjou in 1128.

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