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Pakefield Discoveries

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  Posted by Gran (U2612308) on Friday, 16th December 2005

  Does anyone know anything about the discoveries in Suffolk involving people who would have lived 700,000 years ago?

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  Posted by Artorious (U1941655) on Friday, 16th December 2005

  Hi Plan,
  
  Interesting if true as it would make them one of the earliest Homo Erectus to be found in Europe. Earliest I think are 500,000 years ago in Europe. Homo Sapiens comming around at about 300,000
  

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  Posted by John S (U2703481) on Saturday, 17th December 2005

  Pre-dates original dated discovery of human habitation in the British Isles (then of course still connected to the mainland of Europe by a land-bridge) by around 200,000 years.

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  Posted by ap Tom (U1380901) on Saturday, 17th December 2005

  Try this:
  
  

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  Posted by rheidol (U898537) on Saturday, 17th December 2005

  And this:
  

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  Posted by Psychodigger (U2870758) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006

  The oldest evidence for the presence of people is about 800.000 years old, on a site called Sima de los Huesos in Ataperca, in the North of Spain. The 500.000 year old remaind Artorious mentions are a tibia an two teeth from a British site called Boxgrove.
  Contrary to Artoriouses claim that Homo Sapiens entered Europe about 300.000 years ago, this only happened about 45.000 years ago.
  
  The Atapuerca people were a variety of Homo Erectus, dubbed Homo Antecessor by the excavators (but by almost nobody else), whereas the Boxgrove man is ranked under Homo heidelbergensis, believed to be a local European descendant of Erectus. About 300.000 years ago these evolved into the Neanderthals, scientifically known as either Homo Neanderthalensis or Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis, depending on who you ask. Homo Sapiens proper, i.e. our direct ancestors were the ones entering Europa around 45.000 yeas ago. It is possible that they interbred with local Neanderthal populations making us the combined result of both species, hence the two names. the name H. Neanderthalensis is commonly used by people who do not accept this intermingling, the other by advocates of the theory.
  
  However, the Pakefield hominids (sorry about the digression) will have been H. Erectus, possibly already evolving into a very early H. Heidelbergensis. This can not be ascertained, because the Pakefield discovery only yielded stone artefacts, no hominid remains were found.

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