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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by SHOUTINGman (U1918139) on Tuesday, 6th December 2005
Get down to your local adult education centre and study Archaeology. I did last year at GCSE level and found it answered a lot of questions I had. This year I am doing an A level in Ancient History and agin recommend it. The people studying are all like you - interested and the lectures are informal so it isn't like school. It doesn't cost that much either!
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Message 2
Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Tuesday, 6th December 2005
Im glad you can go to such centres nowadays and learn archaeology and ancient history at gcse and a level because there seem to be very few schools and colleges who offer it as a subject. I had to start afresh at uni after doing years of modern political history.
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Message 3
Posted by SHOUTINGman (U1918139) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
What makes it good for me is that we learnt from an Archaeologist and not some teacher who has read a syllabus book. Gave us a really good insight!
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Message 4
Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
I was extremely fortunate to be able to study Archaeology as P/T undergrad at Bristol Uni in the early/mid 90's. We had distinguished lecturers such as Mick Aston and Julian Richards. These initiatives at colleges etc to get people interested in History and Archaeology can only be a good thing, and as you say, learning from an experienced Archaeologist is a real treat.
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Message 5
Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
Totally agree, a man who is an archaeologist seems to have more passion for what hes talking about and has the experience behind him! Very lucky to have studied at Bristol, Im jealous! However there are some very good lecturers here at Birmingham, Im so fortunate to have John Hunter, he knows what he is talking about.
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Message 6
Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
I didn't realise it then, but I was incredibly lucky to get a place at Bristol at that time. I particularly remember a wet & windy field trip to Stonehenge with Julian Richards one Sunday. Absolutely fantastic.
You're very lucky to have John Hunter. If I'm correct, he's one of the top guys on the ancient history of Scotland, and certainly knows his stuff on Forensic archaeology. Just the kind of guy to be learning from.
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Message 7
Posted by SHOUTINGman (U1918139) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
I feel out of place now as I had Alan Ward a local Archaeologist and member of the Kent Archaeological society and lecturer at the University of Kent. Apart from that he is as mad as a hatter but a good laugh too.
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Message 8
Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
Thats what its all about. Archaeologists need to be slightly wacky to be able build a picture of what it is you actually have in front of you. When you excavate a site, all the evidence is there before you. Geochem, geophys, etc, all help to tell the story, as well as physical evidence. It takes someone a little crazy to be able to project themselves back to the time in question and build a picture of what was happening at this particular place. Archaeology is a great subject, not just about crawling around in muddy fields getting soaked as many people seem to think. It's mystery solving. It's detective work, and one of the best things about it in my opinion, is the pre-excavation research.
If Alan Ward gives his time to help people understand and appreciate History and Archaeology then he is to be commended. Stick with it, I'm sure you'll never regret it. All the best. I feel out of place now as I had Alan Ward a local Archaeologist and member of the Kent Archaeological society and lecturer at the University of Kent. Apart from that he is as mad as a hatter but a good laugh too.Μύ -
Message 9
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
Re: Message 8.
Daniel, if I may say,
by Brigantes: See "Vote for Thornborough Henges" Oct. 24. 2005 on this same board, I came interested in the Henges and did research for it. And unbelievable I saw a similar Henge in Assebroek, near Bruges on an "affiche" of a bicycle circuit. I called the organisator and so I came in contact with the local archaeological service of Bruges and by my own research in contact with a professor of the university of Ghent on that particular Henge. He knew immediately about what I was speaking, but said that there are circles from the Middle Ages too appearing the same, he knew examples from other sites in Europe. He did together with a pilot research by aerial survey on markings in the soil in Flanders seen from the air.
But so by the girl of the archaeologic service of Bruges I received their website and became an interested one: See: www.raakvlak.be
It is in Dutch but perhaps you understand already something by your "sejour" in Belgium. In any case the "picture" of the Henge of Assebroek appears in it. I am now subscribed to receive the "newsletter" and I already learned a lot of interesting items about archaeology in Bruges and surroundings (especially while the "underground" of Bruges is so full of historical stuff).
The Bruges' service made a link with schools of the surrounding of Bruges and I saw a newsletter where they do as an exercise the "archaeological" method on the content of a modern "garbage" sack of a family. And so the pupils learn what all the items found say about the life of that particular family. And for me too, it was surprizing how much that said about all what happened in that family...Then they explain that by these same methods archaeologists learns how they can from for example the research of a medieval "beerput" (chess-pit), be informed how life was in the Middle Ages...
Kind regards,
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Message 10
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Wednesday, 7th December 2005
Re: Message 9.
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Message 11
Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
I didn't realise it then, but I was incredibly lucky to get a place at Bristol at that time. I particularly remember a wet & windy field trip to Stonehenge with Julian Richards one Sunday. Absolutely fantastic.
You're very lucky to have John Hunter. If I'm correct, he's one of the top guys on the ancient history of Scotland, and certainly knows his stuff on Forensic archaeology. Just the kind of guy to be learning from.
All the best.
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Thank you, he is quite the legend. I do forensic archaeology and its such an underrated subject, I never knew just what use archaeology could have! He does go up very often to Scotland and runs digs up there for the students as well. Very knowledgeable about heritage management as well which I have him for. -
Message 12
Posted by TimeladyShayde (U2426536) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
I've just finished my degree in archaeology this year from Winchester, and am off to do a Masters in Human Osteology and Palaeopathology at Bradford next Sept. It's nice to meet someone else who is into forensics in archaeology.
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Message 13
Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
Good luck with that! Yes and it coincides perfectly with my violence and warfare course which covers elements of palaeopathology. However after studying forensics, I don't think it is for me. Im not of a scientific mind, nor could I really cope with the pressure.
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Message 14
Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
Message 12 - posted by TimeladyShayde, 11 Hours Ago
I've just finished my degree in archaeology this year from Winchester, and am off to do a Masters in Human Osteology and Palaeopathology at Bradford next Sept. It's nice to meet someone else who is into forensics in archaeology.
Good luck with that! Yes and it coincides perfectly with my violence and warfare course which covers elements of palaeopathology. However after studying forensics, I don't think it is for me. Im not of a scientific mind, nor could I really cope with the pressure.Μύ
I wish the both of you all the best. Actually makes me quite jealous, I only wish I'd stuck at it and taken it further. But it's something that seems to stick with you for life, even when you're not actively involved. Sometimes, for a little light relief, I read the excavation reports from the 'Transactions of the Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society'. A bit sad perhaps, but I enjoy it!! -
Message 15
Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
Paul,
I didn't know you were a budding Archaeologist!! You certainly have a huge advantage over me on the archaeology and history of this part of the world. I'm only really vaguely familiar with the Belgae, who earned the respect of Gaius Julius Caesar in his campaigns of Northern Gaul. I think he referred to them as a 'Germanic' tribe, although he was probably wrong, and it certainly wouldn't win him any friends nowadays! The Belgae settled in parts of Britain, so I could argue that I've come home!!
I've not had much of an opportunity to get out into the countryside and take a look around, but I've noted your comments on henges and earthworks and its something for me to look into. Thanks for the link to raakvlak, my Dutch is far from good, but I will check the site from time to time and maybe improve my language skills at the same time. I'm not familiar with Assebroek, but it sounds like it's worth a visit. Cheers.
Daniel
PS. Not sure I like the idea of School Children examining my rubbish bags. It won't be difficult to identify where I came from due to the large number of PG Tips tea bags, and empty cans of mild British Beer!! -
Message 16
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
Re: Message 15.
Daniel,
thank you very much for the kind reply.
Assebroek is just one municipality of the close surroundings of Bruges. Not that much interesting. Apart of course of my "new favourite" archaeology and the "Henge" you can see on the picture in Raakvlak...
Warm regards,
Paul.
PS. Can it be that we found in the rubbish bag something related to the wit of a certain "Engelsman"? -
Message 17
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Thursday, 8th December 2005
Addendum to Message 15.
Daniel,
. There seems to be five people from West-Flanders in it I read today in a paper. And now found it on internet.
And you have only to click on the "English" tab to have a synopsis of the articles in English...
Kind regards again. -
Message 18
Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Friday, 9th December 2005
I wish the both of you all the best. Actually makes me quite jealous, I only wish I'd stuck at it and taken it further. But it's something that seems to stick with you for life, even when you're not actively involved. Sometimes, for a little light relief, I read the excavation reports from the 'Transactions of the Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society'. A bit sad perhaps, but I enjoy it!!Μύ
Not at all! I have yet to get to grips with excavation reports because I find them difficult to sift through, especially the larger ones with about 3 volumes! -
Message 19
Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Friday, 9th December 2005
Addendum to Message 15.
Daniel,
. There seems to be five people from West-Flanders in it I read today in a paper. And now found it on internet.
And you have only to click on the "English" tab to have a synopsis of the articles in English...
Kind regards again.Μύ
Excellent site Paul. Thank you very much. This is exactly the kind of thing I've been looking for. I'm very grateful to you.
All the best,
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Message 20
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Friday, 9th December 2005
Re: Message 19.
Daniel,
thank you very much for your kind reply.
All the best,
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Message 21
Posted by TimeladyShayde (U2426536) on Tuesday, 13th December 2005
I wish the both of you all the best. Actually makes me quite jealous, I only wish I'd stuck at it and taken it further. But it's something that seems to stick with you for life, even when you're not actively involved. Sometimes, for a little light relief, I read the excavation reports from the 'Transactions of the Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society'. A bit sad perhaps, but I enjoy it!!Μύ
Not at all! I have yet to get to grips with excavation reports because I find them difficult to sift through, especially the larger ones with about 3 volumes! Μύ
I can't imagine doing anything in my life other than archaeology, it's that simple. Having to work in an office this year so that I've got the funds for my Masters has been really hard, but it'll be worth it in the end.
Excavation reports can really be a nightmare. The amount I had to go through to write my dissertation. Ugh!
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