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  Posted by Ankhesenamun15 (U2550768) on Tuesday, 22nd November 2005

  Hey i'm not asking a question just wanna see if any ppl actually wanna chat about Egypt rather than just answering questions.
  
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  Posted by goodoldphilusa (U2519971) on Tuesday, 22nd November 2005

  I might. 'sup?
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  Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Tuesday, 22nd November 2005

  Maybe. Start something off, and I'll join in.....as long as it's not too technical.

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  Posted by nefretari_2005 (U2576173) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2005

  hi ankhesenamun15,i would love to chat to you about egypt,coz i really love it and cant wait to go back there from nefretari_2005

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  Posted by hallamhal (U2549864) on Thursday, 24th November 2005

  hmmm... good conversation pieces, ummm... How many egyptian gods were there?
  bast, seth, ptah, osiris, ra, aten, anubis, thoth, umm, that dwarf guy, isis? 10, i can name

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  Posted by faran1 (U2570961) on Thursday, 24th November 2005

  If you want my opinion I think that all the pharohes age were the interested time of egypt

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  Posted by faran1 (U2570961) on Thursday, 24th November 2005

  If you want my opinion I think that all the pharohes age were the interested time of egypt hmmm... good conversation pieces, ummm... How many egyptian gods were there?
  bast, seth, ptah, osiris, ra, aten, anubis, thoth, umm, that dwarf guy, isis? 10, i can nameΒ 

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  Posted by Ankhesenamun15 (U2550768) on Thursday, 24th November 2005

  hey hallamhal, just to answer your question, there are hundreds, representing every aspect of ancient Egyptian life. The dwarf guys name was Bes by the way lol.
  Hey Nefertari what shall we chat bout then?
  Ankhesenamun xxx

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  Posted by Β§ilver ghΓΈst (U2315521) on Saturday, 26th November 2005

  hmmm... good conversation pieces, ummm... How many egyptian gods were there?
  bast, seth, ptah, osiris, ra, aten, anubis, thoth, umm, that dwarf guy, isis? 10, i can nameΒ 
  
  Bast
  seth
  ptah
  Re
  Aten
  anubis
  thoth
  Bes
  isis
  Khumn
  hathor
  wadjet
  geb
  maat
  tawret
  sheshat
  sokar
  neith
  amun
  sekhmet
  horus
  kepry
  shut and tefnut
  nut
  bastet
  selquet
  khonsu
  montu
  nephthys
  wepwawet
  ammut
  apophis
  hapy
  sarapis (thougth this god was "invented" by Alexander the great afer he conquered Egypt.)
  
  Thats all I can think of

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  Posted by Plancenoit (U1237957) on Saturday, 26th November 2005

  Now that we've got on to the subject of the huge amount of deities that existed for all aspects of everyday life and death, maybe we should consider the impact of Akhenaten (Amenophis IV?) and his insistence that the one true God was the sun, the Aten. After all, the Sun gives life to everyone, and every living thing, doesn't it? Perhaps he was right, but what kind of impact would it have after generations of polytheism to be suddenly told you are wrong. There is only one God above all others, and it is a previously relatively minor God. Is it any surprise that after his death the whole thing collapsed in disarray and shame?? Did Tutankhamen (Nebkhprure) go back to the old ways purely to protect his throne, or was he astute enough to realise there may have been some truth in the teachings of Akhenaten?? What we are seeing is the birth of religion in the form which we recognise today. Akhenaten's teachings even show through in modern Christianity. Was this man too far ahead of his time and ultimately doomed, misunderstood?? Akhenaten began to believe he was the son of the Aten, God, what are the comparisons of Akhenaten and the man we call Jesus Christ??

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  Posted by rafginger (U2126175) on Sunday, 27th November 2005

  It is possible that Akhenaten was the brother of Moses. It is known that Akhenaten was the second son of Amenhotep III and the fate of his elder son ThutMOSIS is unknown. If he was Moses it could explain why Amenhotep III had made so many statues of Sekhmet the lion-headed godess slayer of mankind as an appeasement for the plagues and death of the firstborn and Akhenaten's adoption of a monotheistic religion.
  
  ATB Mike.

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  Posted by Richie (U1238064) on Sunday, 27th November 2005

  Mike
  
  The idea that Tuthmosis being the biblical Moses has recently been gone into great depth over on the Jewish Religion board and pretty well de-bunked as a theory

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  Posted by Ankhesenamun15 (U2550768) on Monday, 28th November 2005

  Hello, it is impossible that Akenatens brother was the biblical Moses because Moses was in Egypt i think around Rameses II reign if i remember correctly. Also "Did Tutankhamen (Nebkhprure) go back to the old ways purely to protect his throne, or was he astute enough to realise there may have been some truth in the teachings of Akhenaten??" To answer that Tutankhamun may have restored the Gods to respects the people of Egypt, but he did not abolish the Aten which can still be seen in some of his objects. All it meant was the Aten became a regular diety rather than a head God. Tutankhamun was brought up in Aketaten so he lived by the way of the Aten. The change was mostly done by his uncle Ay, the general Horemheb and the treasurer Maya. Plus Tutankhamun remained in Aketaten until he was twelve whilst his advisors restored faith. Tutankhamun most certainly did not hate the old regime!
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  Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Monday, 28th November 2005

  For an idea on how much Tutenkhamun followed his father's religion, look at his name. He changed it back after Akhenaten died to be associated with Amun once again. The Restoration Stele makes in pretty clear that Tut was dissasociated with Akhenaten. To what extent this was all his own work is debatable, after all he came to the throne when he was ten, its hard to imagine that he did all of this himself. Its likely that people wanted to reestablish the old order I mean, how would you feel if a new religion was suddenly imposed on you and you had to conform to it. Looking through the successive dynasties you can tell that the pharoahs were still reeling from Akhenaten's reign and suddenly art became more overtly religious, all the Gods were included. He has a huge impact but I think the majority wanted to forget he ever existed. His reforms were just a little bit too radical

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  Posted by nefernefruaten (U2973790) on Monday, 16th January 2006

  hi id love to chat to you about egypt i can talk about it all day and never get tired maybe we can become penpals and discuss things about egypt.

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  Posted by Crystal Clear (U1010754) on Wednesday, 18th January 2006

  Ok then. Anyone been to Egypt? Im going at the end of march and just wondering if its really that dangerous getting to Abu Simbel as we are going there

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  Posted by nefernefruaten (U2973790) on Saturday, 21st January 2006

  hi i dont thinks its dangerouse going to Abu Simbel as i think there is a nile cruse you can go on and it will take you to all sites of interest ie. luxor temple the aswan dam , temple island of phlaie ect. id love to go make sure to take lots of pics !!!!!

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  Posted by robbie9 (U1753528) on Monday, 23rd January 2006

  i was in luxor last june on my honeymoon, went to the temples and the vally of kings it was fine but apart from that there,s nothing really to do outside your hotel

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  Posted by OldKingCole72 (U1815644) on Monday, 23rd January 2006

  I see little parallel between Akhenaten's worship of the solar disc and Christianity except in the belief of one God. Religion was still the preserve of the elite in Akhetaten's Egypt - indeed it became even more exclusively the preserve of the the very highest class (the Pharoah and his family) to the detriment of the wider priesthood - whereas Christianity's teachings emphasise the importance of the wider population and of the lowest, poorest and weakest members of society. Akhetaten did not minister to his people or concern himself with their tribulations, but lived a life of incredible luxury and splendid isolation. In this he has much more in common with the traditional Egyptian religious system than anything else.

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  Posted by lazysharon (U3050001) on Wednesday, 25th January 2006

  i have been to egypt and i watch a lot of it on tv,what do you want to chat about,as long as it is not difficult

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  Posted by lazysharon (U3050001) on Wednesday, 25th January 2006

  tell us what you know then

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  Posted by nu_nubian (U3077043) on Sunday, 29th January 2006

  Theres a few problems with your notion that Akhenaten CANT be Moses. Firstly you assume that all biblical material is literal and historically accurate. We know from a variety of sources that this isnt the case. Second you assume that if the biblical Moses and the author of the Torah are the same person. Although there are many arguments that the author of the Torah is the same person there's no reason scientifically to believe that this person is the actual Moses we've come to accept as a leader of the Israelites people. Lastly you assume that early Israelite culture and religion are in some way similar to Christianity when in fact by Jesus own admission he came to bring a new revision on old believes. Jesus' contribution to Judaism was to make compassion (Ma'at, Logos) from and center in the process of judging others and in ones own life.
  
  Take away the biblical mythology (or fact if your a believer) for a second and look at the parallels and its quite possible that Akenhaton and his brother Tuthmosis are the biblical characters Aaron and Moses.

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  Posted by Akideko (U1812061) on Sunday, 29th January 2006

  Modern Egypt or Ancient Egypt?

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