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Message 1.Â
Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
I was under the impression that the belt was worn from right shoulder to left hip, and indeed in every photo and on every officer I have seen wearing one, it was worn like that. But I was looking at a statue of a First World War officer, and his went from left shoulder to right hip. a mistake, or could it be worn either way?
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Message 2
Posted by bandick (U14360315) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
Fred this could be a very simple error in the development process… if the negative was the wrong way around it would have that effect… and maybe not easily detected as it was being processed… think of those puzzle books where you have to spot the difference between two pictures… I’ve done it… just a thought.
Taken a picture of my sister who has a small scar on her left cheek… it was years later when we were looking at childhood pics… before it was noticed… just left hand or right hand pick… they have to be so carful with exrays for the same reason… -
Message 3
Posted by bandick (U14360315) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
Sorry Fred… that’ll teach me to read the article thoroughly… I thought it was a photo you were describing not a stature… anyway, I took this from wiki… thou I expect you’ve already spotted it.:
King Alfonso XIII of Spain wore his Sam Browne the wrong way round on his first inspection of the 16th The Queen's Lancers as Colonel-in-Chief in 1906. In advance to his arrival, someone noticed this error and informed the commanding officer, he then ordered all those wearing Sam Browne belts to reverse those as well. This tradition has gone on through until today, with The Queen's Royal Lancers wearing their stable belt and Sam Browne belt in reverse. -
Message 4
Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
Sadly the mistake is on the statue of Neol Chavasse now on display in Liverpool, a man who won the VC twice duting the First World War,
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Message 5
Posted by bandick (U14360315) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
Just read the wiki info for him Fred… what a guy… though interestingly his portrait on wiki shows him wearing his Sam Browne in the traditional way… how odd.
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Message 6
Posted by Sambista (U4068266) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
Perhaps the sculptor had a reversed picture as his model?
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Message 7
Posted by bandick (U14360315) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
Well urgy… if you’d take the time to study the portrait you’d notice the glengarry is worn with the badge over the left eye… also if you’d taken the time to study his time piece with an eyeglass the numbers on his watch face display the correct direction of rotation… i.e. clockwise, so I deduce the portrait is of the correct hand, and not of the cock hand that you suggest… just small observations that we in the boy scouts were trained to make Urgy… one might venture to say ‘elementary dear Urgy’. -
Message 8
Posted by MB (U177470) on Monday, 28th March 2011
King Alfonso XIII of Spain wore his Sam Browne the wrong way round on his first inspection of the 16th The Queen's Lancers as Colonel-in-Chief in 1906. In advance to his arrival, someone noticed this error and informed the commanding officer, he then ordered all those wearing Sam Browne belts to reverse those as well. This tradition has gone on through until today, with The Queen's Royal Lancers wearing their stable belt and Sam Browne belt in reverse.Â
I thought there was sure to be at least one British regiment that wore it in a different way to everyone else!
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Message 9
Posted by Sambista (U4068266) on Monday, 28th March 2011
It doesn't matter what details you can see from the portrait you are looking at , bidnock.
If the sculptor was working from one which had been printed in reverse, then a wrong-handed statue might well be the result. -
Message 10
Posted by bandick (U14360315) on Monday, 28th March 2011
I wonder if Michelangelo had to put up with these problems when he painted the ceiling in the Sistine Chapel… or worked on the Stature of David… did he have to endure the constant nitpicking of one lurgly gurgly disturbing him as he designed the dome of St. Peter’s Basilica… I hope not… -
Message 11
Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
We can all rest easy as I have been contacted by the chairman of the group responsable for the statue, and what I assumed was his Sam Browne Belt is (According to him) Chavasse's strap from his first aid bag.
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