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150 unification of Italy. The UK has played a role?

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    Posted by AlexanderLiberty (U14397753) on Saturday, 12th March 2011

    Hello everyone,

    I refer to the landing at Marsala, which occur due to the coverage of two British warships. (
    According to some, the Royal Navy played a key role in the operation of Garibaldi according to others it was completely random intervention (the Royal Navy was there by chance).

    I would like to know the views of the people of Albion.

    Honestly, I am aware that Britain has played an important role in Italian history, from themes of John Hawkwood to those of the Cold War (U.S. and UK blocked the civil war). The landing of a Thousand is just a small episode. I do not know if it was intentional or dictated by political necessity, no doubt was essential.

    Bye

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    Posted by TimTrack (U1730472) on Monday, 14th March 2011

    I very much doubt if such an intervention was a random one done at the behest of local ships' captains.

    There must have been some political cause in such an important event as facilitating a landing by a beligerent force. This is, after all, a matter the opponents of the landing would not ignore. Without claiming any special knowledge, and being clear here that I am speculating, there are several possibilities. I would favour the last one :


    1) It may be that the British government thought that Italy could slip in to chaos, causing a humanitarian problem, unless someone like Garibaldi took power. This is not necessarily an unusually selfless act. Remember, in the period, British ships were actively freeing slaves on the high seas.

    2) The British might have looked at the other options for who might win and come to the conclusion that Garibaldi presented the best option for the maintenance of British influence compared to other Italian options.

    3) According to the link below, the French were involved in opposing Garibaldi by protecting the Papal States. So, by assisting Garibaldi, the British opposed French influence. And they did it without firing a shot themselves. Fighting to the last Italian, you might say.





    ps, if you read this link, you will see the offer Garibaldi made to command US forces in the civil war. An interesting diversion.

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    Posted by AlexanderLiberty (U14397753) on Thursday, 17th March 2011

    I very much doubt if such an intervention was a random one done at the behest of local ships' captains.

    There must have been some political cause in such an important event as facilitating a landing by a beligerent force. This is, after all, a matter the opponents of the landing would not ignore. Without claiming any special knowledge, and being clear here that I am speculating, there are several possibilities. I would favour the last one :


    1) It may be that the British government thought that Italy could slip in to chaos, causing a humanitarian problem, unless someone like Garibaldi took power. This is not necessarily an unusually selfless act. Remember, in the period, British ships were actively freeing slaves on the high seas.

    2) The British might have looked at the other options for who might win and come to the conclusion that Garibaldi presented the best option for the maintenance of British influence compared to other Italian options.

    3) According to the link below, the French were involved in opposing Garibaldi by protecting the Papal States. So, by assisting Garibaldi, the British opposed French influence. And they did it without firing a shot themselves. Fighting to the last Italian, you might say.





    ps, if you read this link, you will see the offer Garibaldi made to command US forces in the civil war. An interesting diversion.Β 
    Hi Tim Track,

    Probably they did not understand it, infact after Garibaldi went to France and assumed command of the Army of the Vosges, an army of volunteers that was never defeated by the Prussians.

    nowadays The Giuseppe Garibaldi Trophy has been awarded annually since 2007 within the Six Nations rugby union framework to the victor of the match between France and Italy, in the memory of Garibaldi.

    Garibaldi a france's friend not an enemy.



    the American Civil War's forces were made by foreigners (italians,Polish, Germans, Irish etc...), maybe he would commanded the italians volunteers. see that

    Bye and thanks

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