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Posted by Triceratops (U3420301) on Sunday, 10th October 2010
Not a thread about Sun Tzu's book, but one about the depiction of wars and warfare through the ages.
I'm no art historian or critic and this thread is just a chance for eveyone to discuss their favourite pieces of war art/artists or pieces which have influenced art and history.
To start off, one of the most famous works of the Renaissance,Paolo Uccello's triptych "The Battle of San Romano"
The first painting is in the National Gallery in London
the second in the Uffizi in Florence
and the third in the Louvre in Paris
Uccello's three paintings show three phases of the battle,which lasted eight hours,and is an important work in the development and use of perspective.
Moving on a bit to the Swiss Illustrated Chronicles of the Elder and Younger Diebold Schillings,there's an appealing simplicity about these works compared to Uccello.
Reislaeufer were soldiers who left the cantons to fight abroad as mercenaries.
From the Tschachltchronik,the Battle of St Jakob en Birs,which made the Swiss reputation
Schwyz along with Uri and Unterwalden were the founder members of the Confederation,although the term Swiss was sometimes used the more common term was Eidgenossen (Confederates).This changed at the time of the Swabian War,when the Imperialist soldiers made fun of the Confederacy's rural origins by calling them milchsufer (milk boozers) milchstinker (milk stinker)and other words which infer an intimate relationship with farm animals.One of the phrases chueschweizer(cow swiss)meaning a country bumpkin or cow herd led to the increasing and general use of the word schweizer and Schweizerland for the Helvetic Convention.(CH on Swiss vehicle plates,Confoederatio Helvetia, harks back to the old days)
The Swabian War also saw the first battles between the Swiss and their Imperial imitators the Landsknechts. To say these two groups disliked each other would be an understatement.
Urs Graf had been a Reislaeufer and created this impression of the Battle of Marignano
In some ways it anticipates Goya by three centuries.
Bad War, when no prisoners were taken, characterised clashes between Swiss and Landsknechts as depicted by Holbein the Younger
Paul Nash is my favourite...
Hi VF,
I was expecting Nash to appear at some point.Good Choice.
My own favourite is Robert Taylor,especially the aviation pictures.
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No book about the Thirty Years War would be complete without illustrations from the Theatrum Europaeum
The funny thing is that his style of work usually isn't my kind of thing, but it "works" with the subject matter beautifully. His pictures (for me) capture the chaos of war, but are strangely beautiful, I painted my own interpretations of his work that currently hang my living room wall!
Regards
vf
I painted my own interpretations of his work that currently hang my living room wall!Β
Well done VF,that's a skill I wish I had.
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The largest collection of maritime paintings is in the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich
Has anyone visited Gettysburg in the last couple of years?
The Cyclorama has had a major restoration and is now housed in a new visitors centre.
And then there's Tom Lea's Two-Thousand-Yard Stare:
Here's an early sketch:
And, of course, Picasso's 'Guernica':
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I would go for Henry Moore's ghost like figures in the London Underground during the blitz.
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Posted by Sixtus Beckmesser (U9635927) on Friday, 22nd October 2010
Charles Fripp or Lady Elizabeth Butler - superb victoriana.
Though my favourite military portrait, a print of which hangs over my fireplace, is Tissot's Colonel Fred Burnaby.
Excellent stuff gentlemen,anybody have any others?
Yers,
The Death of Nelson by Arthur Devis. I particularly like the way he portrays LN as some sort of quasi deity, even with the halo! Also the ceiling does look a trifle high for the orlop deck, but it's still a fine example of the then popular art-form.
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Posted by AlexanderLiberty (U14397753) on Saturday, 23rd October 2010
hi,
my favourites are:
Scotland Forever!
Washington Crossing the Delaware
Liberty Leading the People
bye
sixtus
yes indeed - anything by Lady butler esp isandhlwana
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Posted by Sixtus Beckmesser (U9635927) on Monday, 25th October 2010
Oooo....is there a Lady Butler Isandhlwana?
I know her Rorke's Drift but haven't seen Isandhlwana - I used to think that the famous painting of the last stand of the 24th was by her, before realising it was Fripp. I also particularly like her Last Stand of the 44th at Gandamak.
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Posted by AlexanderLiberty (U14397753) on Monday, 25th October 2010
hi everyone,
Italian famous Paintings of battles:
The Battle of Anghiari
Vasari, Salone dei Cinquecento
bye
Sixtus,
I used to think that the famous painting of the last stand of the 24th was by her, before realising it was Fripp.Β
I always thought this picture of the Battle of the Alma was by Lady Butler,turns out it is Felix Philippoteaux
Alexander,
I was not expecting Da Vinci. Well done.
sixtus
hey - i think you are correct - i used to have a magazine photo of Isandhlwana which i thought said Lady Butler - have searched but the only one is Fripp - you live and learn - well done
although i could have sworn that the one i had was different ?? Fantastic painting whatever
what an interesting life she had though !!
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Posted by Triceratops (U3420301) on Saturday, 30th October 2010
Borrowed this from Stoggler;
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Posted by AlexanderLiberty (U14397753) on Saturday, 30th October 2010
A web site can suite for us:
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