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How do I find RN Grave ?

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  Posted by Rachel (U5769524) on Saturday, 3rd July 2010

  Can someone please tell me how to find David Murphy Royal Navy born 1885 Ireland died 1922 Royal Naval hospital Plymouth. Some say he was moved and buried in Portsmouth. He did have a full navy funeral and had died of TB but served in the battle of Jutland. I was told he is buried amongst over RN graves but can't find him.

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  Posted by MB (U177470) on Monday, 5th July 2010

  Have you tried asking the CWGC? I think their website only lists up to 1921 but they do keep records of some other graves.
  
  I had a look on the War Grave Photographic Project site but can't see him. They normally work from the CWGC lists but I know that when I am photographing war graves I photograph any that I come across.
  
  Don't forget that you cannot guarantee that a serviceman's grave will have a CWGC headstone, many have family headstones.
  
  Have you asked the local council as the cemeteries will probably be managed by them and they normally have a database of burials?
  
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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 5th July 2010

  Hi,
  
  I do not know if the following on the 1911 census return helps, but just incase.
  
  He is shown as a Stoker 1st Class, Single, born in Ballywalter, Co. Down, Ireland and his religion is given as Chrch of England.
  
  Do you know which ship he served on in Jutland?
  
  The reason I ask is that whilst he died in Plymouth perhaps, still single, he may have wanted to be buried with his other shipmates he fought with at Jutland.
  
  
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  Spike

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  Posted by dmatt47 (U13073434) on Monday, 5th July 2010

  The National Archives, Kew, have 4 or 5 versions of the burial registers for the Royal Naval Hospital at Haslar, near Portsmouth and you might find him in one or all of the versions.

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  Posted by MB (U177470) on Monday, 5th July 2010

  I think that most of those killed at Jutland would have no known grave.
  
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  Posted by Rachel (U5769524) on Tuesday, 6th July 2010

  He died in 1922 of TB but served on board the Princess Royal in the battle of Jutland and was injured. Some say he was buried with some of his ship mates who had gone down with the HMS Monmouth. He served on Board her twice but lost his friends when he was moved to another ship.

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Tuesday, 6th July 2010

  Hi again,
  
  As I live in Gosport where the Haslar Royal Navy Cemetery is located I paid a vist and looked at the records.
  
  There is only one David Murphy who was a gunner and is buried in the RC part of the cementery. There is nothing else shown on the record entry
  
  Regards
  Spike
  
  PS if there is anyone else who may have enquiries about those interd at Haslar Cementrey I am more than happy to check them out
  
  Spike

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  Posted by LairigGhru (U14051689) on Tuesday, 6th July 2010

  About three months ago I watched an episode of 'Time Team' that covered an archaeological dig at the cemetery behind the huge Haslar Royal Naval Hospital in Portsmouth, so do keep a sharp eye open for any future repeat of that programme as it is bound to be of interest to you.
  
  The aim of the dig was to try and establish roughly how many graves there were in the large plot of land which lay at the west side of the hospital. As far as I can recall it looked just like a field, so no memorials had been erected there. Based on a sample trench, the conclusion was that about 8,000 people had been buried there over a period of approx 200 years.
  
  The man in command at Haslar Hospital was the one who had the idea of experimenting with a variety of foods to see if there was a solution to the terrible scurvy problem. His records show that he did indeed find the answer, but unfortunately he failed to recognise it and it fell to someone else to spot it in his notes - which was two years after his death. Consequently he did not get the credit.

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