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Spycatcher and the fallout

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  Posted by vesturiiis (U13688567) on Friday, 23rd April 2010

  The story Spycatcher rocked the boat so to speak, was the story that big a deal and did a lot of the detail to emerge damaging to Western intelligence or blown out of proportion. The author certainly seemed to have a grudge with MI5 or was it more a case of sour grapes?

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  Posted by Spruggles (U13892773) on Saturday, 24th April 2010

  vesturiiis,
  I don't think the publication of the book made that much of a stir - it was the attempt by Margaret Thatcher to have the book banned when it had already been published abroad that was the origin of the fuss.
  M. T's line was that it made MI5 look incompetent but we all knew that the Cambridge network had already done so quite effectively, especially as we had a suspicion that certain high ranking officials had side-stepped the condemnation that they so richly deserved in a democracy that prided themselves on 'free speech'.
  As for the author, yes, I think there was certainly a degree of bitterness in his book and possibly justified too(viz his pension).
  Regards,
  Spruggles.

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  Posted by vesturiiis (U13688567) on Saturday, 24th April 2010

  Thank-you Sprugs...
  
  Another thought hit me was what a depressing life the author of Spycatcher seemed to have in that he could trust absolutely no one or am I being a bit melodramatic here.
  You would think we could all sit down for whatever and and chat about something without feeling a chance of betrayal (being screwed so to speak)
  You only go around once (Ithink)
  
  thanks

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  Posted by Spruggles (U13892773) on Saturday, 24th April 2010

  vestu..
  Yup, much reflected in the characters of the John Le Carre spy novels.
  I hope we only go round once Vestu, I don't think I fancy a second lap!
  Regards,
  Sprugs.

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  Posted by vesturiiis (U13688567) on Saturday, 24th April 2010

  Sprug
  
  (did you you notice how I carefully am altering your EMO so that you are totally out of whack)
  
  Seriously though in Great Britain or elsewhere is the spy business just basically a pile of malarky(that is a Canadian term for balony) or is there some use in their abuse.
  
  Here the RCMP seem to stuck on traffic tickets and I think we have a group called CSIS but of course have'nt a clue what they do......
  
  Or do YOU know Regards IAN

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  Posted by Spruggles (U13892773) on Sunday, 25th April 2010

  Hi Ian,
  I think the amount of abuse, in peace time anyway depends on the budget procured by the senior civil service. I suspect that this may be the reason why some 'enemies' might have to be invented so that the budget is maintained.
  As for the RCMP dishing out parking tickets I find it difficult to imagine that with all that space you have that you can't find somewhere to park which does not infringe the regulations!
  As for the CSIS, which I suspect stands for the Canadian Secret Intelligence Service ... have you tried their website? The CIA have a nice one!
  Regards,
  Spru (see - two can play at that game!)

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  Posted by vesturiiis (U13688567) on Sunday, 25th April 2010

  Ya sure , thanks alot Spru.
  As we speak the Cdn Spacial Inv Services have been around with their ticket book
  but MI5 will be calling
  
  we'll be in contact IAN

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