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Posted by foxes4e4 (U13775485) on Sunday, 6th September 2009
if the colonies in the us had stayed loyal to the crown and where still loyal up to the last century would any of these wars happened
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Yes.
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Yes but it would be directly Russia against Britain
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Not sure about that. I agree with Arnald A. The US (or whatever it would have been called) would, like Canada, have entered the war against Germany in 1914 and 1939, rather than 1917 and 1941. The only wars that would have been prevented was the War of 1812 (since the US would have not have been trading with Napoleonic France) and presumably the Civil War (since slavery would have been abolished by Westminster parliamentary statute in 1833).
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Posted by White Camry (U2321601) on Thursday, 10th September 2009
Allan D,
and presumably the Civil War (since slavery would have been abolished by Westminster parliamentary statute in 1833).Β
Given how rabidly the Confederates defended slavery for generations up until the actual ACW, the 1833 Westminster Act would very likely have started a CW/WoI in southern British North America. That is, unless they were included with St. Helena, Ceylon and the East India Company territories as exceptions.
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Posted by GrumpyEarlyBird (U14133018) on Tuesday, 15th September 2009
The British Colonies of the Americas were founded as separate entities; other colonial powers were France and Spain so it is possible that development of these colonies would have been indepently of each other; however, if Canada is the model, then they would have federated a hundred or so years later.
As to slavery, it would probably have continued to exist but on a different basis - Prior to the late 1780's Britain continued to export convicts to the American Colonies: they were cheaper than African slaves and more expendible as the trade was subsidised by the State. When, I think it was Rhode Island, refused a shipment of convicts a new destination had to be found. That was Australia, so that country would have had a very different history.
I agree that had these colonies remained loyal to the crown they would have participated in WW1 and 2, although the outcome may have been very different
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