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Posted by Jimcracker7[magiclink-r.i.p-9/2/2010][still good for lurking] (U210898) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
in 1944,the germans where being pushed back day by day.
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the amercians decided to ambush the transports and tanks on the road.
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they laid a line of charges,on a road about a mile long, with the plumger on a hill with a marker to detonate when the first truck or tank reached a certain spot.
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but the germans turned off at a point father back, and the americans following behind, missed the germans going off to the right, and followed the plan to the road, and kept on till the marker, the ones on the hill couldnt see they where there own, and detinated the charges, so making the worst friendly fire in ww2 history.
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it was just one of the screwups the american and british did.Jimcracker7
Help us out, how about some sources, or at least a little more info about where this happend. Blue on Blue fire was very common but this story is a little hard to believe.
Not disputing the affair but if the spotter in charge of the Plunger could not recognize American Tanks and Vehicles plus large white Stars plainly in sight painted on them would be very doubtful, even the British and other Allies could recognize American equipment. Had the spotter had orders from one not being able to view the advancing forces he would be in contact, thus able to give information regarding the situation at hand. Granted strange things do and did happen. Thinking again, the Americans would have to have penetrated beyond enemy lines to prepare the mining with a fair number of mines to cover one mile. Very Strange Indeed.
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Posted by Jimcracker7[magiclink-r.i.p-9/2/2010][still good for lurking] (U210898) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
sorry it was about a year back on a world at war,
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the reason i beleive they didnt realise the mistake, as it was nightfall.
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the episode was covering a few mistake made, another the d day landings exersize in england,when the ships where to leave and return to the beach with to cruisers to watch then, but one went to dry dock, the other went to sea.
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as they reached the the return point subs attacked, and for day bodies where coming on the beaches.
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to coverup the mistake, no families where told, and the beaches said to be mined. there was even a top ranking officer, they had to find in the dead, or the d day landings would have been in jepody(sorry on spelling.i think it was 11 that knew the plans, but 10 where found on the beach, a day later the 11th also.
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jimcracker7
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Posted by Jimcracker7[magiclink-r.i.p-9/2/2010][still good for lurking] (U210898) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
this wasnt friendly fire as such.
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but the americans not thinking first.
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in the landings so the ground troops could know who was friendly or not, the american gi,s and so on where given a 10 cent, frog clicker, click,click we used same as kids.
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but what the so called intelligence haddnt seen, was that the magority of german trops had the blot action rifle, back(click,froward(click).
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so how many where thinking its there mates that got shot, i doubt even the americans knew. jimcracker7
"...sorry it was about a year back on a world at war..."
The one narrated by Larry Oliver ?
I have seen this series. I have no re-collection of this tale, and it sounds quite spectacular as things go.
"...to coverup the mistake, no families where told, and the beaches said to be mined. there was even a top ranking officer, they had to find in the dead, or the d day landings would have been in jepody..."
Aha. Missed that.
Please don't post Hollywood movie plots.
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Posted by Backtothedarkplace (U2955180) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
Hi Tim Track
I think he's talking about the Slapton Sands incident. Operation Tiger?
A pre D Day exercise. One of the destroyes in the escort was involved in a collision and with drawn. The other was then detached to investigate repots of E boats? The officer ordering this wasnt aware of the collision earlier.
A German e boat or E boats then found the unescorted landing ships and torpedoed a couple of them.
I am sure that the Slapton Sands incident is in the mix somewhere, but where do the tanks in message one come from ?
I think he has mixed up some random TV documentaries with the movie 'Operation Emerald', had one too many and posted some random words.
Which is mildly amusing, I suppose.
gives a rather better account than the one here of the naval action.
Here's a famous example of "friendly fire"
- and the Russian submarine B1 (ex HMS Sunfish) was sunk in transit. Not uncommon in terms of subs, actually
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Posted by Jimcracker7[magiclink-r.i.p-9/2/2010][still good for lurking] (U210898) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
im getting a bit old in the tooth, it was a duco of some kind, i thought could be world at war.
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the programme was looking at the things the americans in particular did wrong, like the glider landings wrong info from the intelligence i beleive,
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i think also a mixup on the radio frequency chips they had then, no other units could contact each other.
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i think i might be the only surviving ww2 message board user in 2004, im out of date now,dont use a pc, to complicated to explain.
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used to watch a lot of the war documentaries, and things in the past.
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jimcracker7
The tank business - perhaps confusion with the Sherman that was salvaged as a memorial?
The "cover-up" seems to have lasted only until later in 1944, but the story didn't get much attention for some years.
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Posted by Jimcracker7[magiclink-r.i.p-9/2/2010][still good for lurking] (U210898) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
might see if i can find all my search forums from 2004
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should still have them somewhere in a pad.
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i was hoping one or two for the original ww2 board ones pete, yorkshiretyke and so on might be around still. but looks like they are gone.
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have any of you read the archives we left behind
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this was mine, but the one for archives seems to mising ggrr.
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A2228113
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its still two missing, and i might find the raf command site, and see if anyone ever did any followups. jimcracker7
I suppose the ultimate in friendly fire is when it is your own ship - see the story of HMS Trinidad at
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