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Lease Lend
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Message 1.Β
Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
At the end of W W 2, the U S insisted that the U k return most of its Lease Lend goods, but what about the other countrys Did the likes of Russia agree to return the vast amount of war materal, or did they simply forget?
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Message 2
Posted by JB on a slippery slope to the thin end ofdabiscuit (U13805036) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
A bit difficult to return fired bullets and sunken ships.
As I recall, it was more a case of an immediate suspension of Lend-Lease by Congress who had not the first clue about the war thanks to FDR. -
Message 3
Posted by petaluma (U10056951) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
GF, some years ago I read where the Russians had one Liberty ship from the US and was about to scrap it, claimed the US asked for it but was refused.
Of the British believe more where they would build camps etc for American Forces as payment and trade offs.
Some claimed that the American Auto industries supplied trucks etc to the US armed forces on the promise that they wouldn't be left in the countries shipped to after the war to interfere with potential civilian trade.
One hears many supposed truths during war, as its said, "Truth the first casualty of war" and very true.
Lend-Lease was more to placate the Isolationists as they wanted payment for all war supplies and not owed large sums as was the case after WW1 by the British especially. -
Message 4
Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
but the U K returned all of the aircraft (Still flying) all of the ships tanks etc.Most of the 100 or so Aircraft Carriers the R N had were mostly U S converted Merchant Ships, they too went back. Russia received both aircraft and tanks from the U S, as well as Aircraft from the U K. So were they just written off by both the U S and the U K?
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Message 5
Posted by petaluma (U10056951) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
GF, should have typed, 'One Liberty ship left', have not heard how many given on loan. Russians very selfish allies talking to seamen who had sailed to Murmansk during the war, Russians thought everything should have been given them. After Germany attacked Russia, Russia wanted the British to start a second front in France, (Britain couldn't have attacked The Isle of Man at that time) the Russians did not have any regard for Britain when it was having the XXX kicked out of it during the bombing but wanted aid after they were invaded by Germany their signers to the, 'Non Aggression Pack', with Germany.
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Message 6
Posted by petaluma (U10056951) on Wednesday, 20th May 2009
GF, I was out of the country when war ended and for about two years had no newspapers, radio, (known as Wireless to us) or any information knew very little that was going on anywhere in the world, only heard of Belsen etc about a year after the war ended and that was by new replacements to the Battalion.
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Message 7
Posted by sevenskies (U13875542) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
There was something more important than junk items to be returned to its owner , a HOMELAND .
Britain was the governer and the only authority on Palestine , during its mandate extending from 1921 to 1948 , under its eyes and by its consent and support , the Jewish Europeans were infiltrating Palestine like a plague until things were ready . In darknwess and like any other coward , Britain pulled out from Palestine and handed-over the land and people to the terror militia of the alien Jews who worked-out massacres and terrorism against the helpless authentic owners of the land.
So, return back to the Palestinians their stolen homeland , the 61 years of deprived freedom and hope for safe living. -
Message 8
Posted by JB on a slippery slope to the thin end ofdabiscuit (U13805036) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
Bearing in mind Delrick's attempts to Reason with RyanO, I don't think I'll bother.
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Message 9
Posted by Backtothedarkplace (U2955180) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
The British didnt consent or aid the imigration of Jews to Palestine. You can tell this by the wway the Irgun, Hagenah, Stern Gang and various others were shooting and bombing British Soldiers.
We pulled out because there was a complete lack of will on behalf of the international community to do anything other than blame us for the mess.
So in one of the cleverer British strategic moves of the 20th centeury we pulled out and left them to kill each other off.
If you want to be a bigot feel free. But you could at least be an accurate bigot and try to chew the carpet less. -
Message 10
Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
And this has to do with Lease Lend how?
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Message 11
Posted by VF (U5759986) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
No idea.
I dont know if it counts as "Lend Lease" but HMS Royal Soveriegn was lent to Russia and became the Archangelsk till 1949.Apparently she was in a right state when she was returned,with accounts varying from faeces being present on the mess decks to 15 inch shells being semi rusted in the barrels.I tend to think that the latter is a myth,the former I have seen mentioned on several occassions.
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Message 12
Posted by Spruggles (U13892773) on Thursday, 21st May 2009
Greetings GF,
Perhaps he thinks that Palestine and the occupants was part of the Lease/Lend deal? But what about all those bases we loaned to the Americans as part of the deal? Can we have them back now, please? -
Message 13
Posted by cmedog47 (U3614178) on Friday, 22nd May 2009
Hoffer tells us that for the True Believer, everything springs from that One Thing that stands between Our People and ultimate happiness. Probably the Jews were behind Lend Lease, which was merely a plot all along to manipulate Britain into a dependent position to make them more compliant in the Zionist project.
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Message 14
Posted by Spruggles (U13892773) on Saturday, 23rd May 2009
Kurtbronson,
Well sir, if you want to believe that, you'll believe anything from the Great Big Sky Fairy to Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Good Luck in the Bubble Factory! -
Message 15
Posted by arnaldalmaric (U1756653) on Saturday, 23rd May 2009
At the end of W W 2, the U S insisted that the U k return most of its Lease Lend goods, but what about the other countrys Did the likes of Russia agree to return the vast amount of war materal, or did they simply forget? Β
You are misinformed. A simple research into the subject should prove you wrong in your assumption.
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Message 16
Posted by cmedog47 (U3614178) on Sunday, 24th May 2009
AA:
I am too tired of the repetitive misinformation to even point that out. Glad you still have enough hope in you to try.
I must be careful in my cynicism. Spruggles didn't recognize my sarcasm. I thought the caps would be a tip off but I guess not. -
Message 17
Posted by Spruggles (U13892773) on Monday, 25th May 2009
KurtBronson,
Greetings. Apparently I failed to notice your use of sarcasm. Well, perhaps you failed to recognize my irony ... my clue was in the use of the words 'bubble factory' followed by the exclamation mark ... Touche, Mon Aimee.
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