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Stalin and hitler

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  Posted by nastychestycough (U13796779) on Friday, 6th February 2009

  I read a book some time ago - I think it might have been by Alan Bullock - that stated the professional revolutionary Stalin and itineraent house painter Hitler were once in Vienna at the same time , around about 1909, and briefly speculated that they may have run into each other.
  Can anyone enlighten us if they were once fellow unknowns in the same place? I obviously don't believe they could concievably come into contact, but what a short story it would make!

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  Posted by suvorovetz (U12273591) on Saturday, 7th February 2009

  the professional revolutionary Stalin and itineraent house painter Hitler were once in Vienna at the same time , around about 1909, and briefly speculated that they may have run into each otherΒ  The evening was wet. An itineraent house painter Hitler was painting the professional revolutionary Lenin's apartment and observing the future Leader of the Revolution at work, while the professional revolutionary Stalin strolled out in search of a beer keg.

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  Posted by Allan D (U1791739) on Saturday, 7th February 2009

  According to Bullock on p44 of his "Hitler and Stalin - Parallel Lives" Stalin had been invited to Vienna where he stayed a month from January-February 1913 when Hitler was still resident in the city (he moved to Munich in June 1913) to study the Austrian socialist programme for governing the multi-ethnic Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lenin was later to appoint Stalin Commissar for Nationalities). This was Stalin's longest spell abroad and his only visit until his trip to the Teheran Conference in November 1943.
  
  Bullock only speculates that the two "may even have rubbed shoulders in the crowd". However there is no evidence apart from this surmise. I would have thought the chances are fairly remote. I overlapped at university with Tony Blair but can never recall even seeing him and 1913-Vienna had a much larger population.
  
  Apart from Lenin, the two figures whom Stalin definintely met, and whom he would both later liquidate, were Bukharin and Trotsky. Trotsky only recalled "the glint of animosity" in his "yellow eyes".

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  Posted by suvorovetz (U12273591) on Sunday, 8th February 2009

  what a short story it would make!Β  Or how is this: Lenin, Hitler and Stalin walk into a Vienna Kneipe. A barmann says, "Verfluchte schweine. Raus!"

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