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  Posted by DL (U1683040) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  Hi all,
  
  I'm currently doing some research on the battle of Stalingrad, and wondering whether anyone can recommend any good books on this titanic battle, or has any decent website links?
  Cheers
  DL

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  Posted by George1507 (U2607963) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  There's a good and accurate diary here -
  
  
  
  and the two books that are most widely available are Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad, and Alan Clark's Barbarossa book.
  
  

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  Posted by U3280211 (U3280211) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  Try the superb "Stalingrad" by Anthony Beevor.
  Easily the best of the bunch, in English.

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  Posted by Steelers708 (U1831340) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  There's also:
  
  Enemy at the Gates by William Craig
  
  Death of the Leaping Horseman: 24. Panzer-Division in Stalingrad by Jason D. Mark
  
  Island Of Fire: The Battle for the Barrikady Gun Factory in Stalingrad by Jason D. Mark
  
  An Infantryman in Stalingrad by Adelbert Holl
  
  An Artilleryman in Stalingrad by Dr. Wigand Wuster
  
  Stalingrad: How The Red Army Triumphed by Michael K. Jones
  
  Turning Point: Recollection of Russian participants and witnesses of the Stalingrad Battle by P.P. Popov, A.V. Kozlov & B.G. Usik
  
  
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by Tas (U11050591) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  Hi DL,
  
  My favorite was a book written by the then correspondent of Times in Russia in 1940s: "Russia at War" by Alexander Worth. It describes not only Stalingrad but the entire war from the Russian perspective.
  
  Tas

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  Posted by abrazier (U3915690) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  Anything by Jason D Mark (Death of the Leaping Horseman, Island of Fire, An Infantryman at Stalingrad, An Artilleryman at Stalingrad, etc). Death of the... particularly gives an excellent feel for the grinding attrition of the battle. It's organised as a day by day account of the 24th Pz division through the battle. At the end of each day it lists the day's casualties which gives the sense of the division being slowly eroded to nothing. All his books are superbly researched and well illustrated.
  
  Stopped at Stalingrad by Joel Hayward; excellent book, draws heavily on the war diaries of Wolfram von Richthofen (brother of THAT von Richthofen) who commanded the Luftflotte supporting Operation Blau. A very different viewpoint from most accounts.

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  Posted by Steelers708 (U1831340) on Wednesday, 22nd October 2008

  Abrazier,
  
  Your quite right about Death of the Leaping Horsemen, an excellent book, albeit out of print now and very expensive (Β£70-100).
  
  Jason has a new book due out in November called, Angriff: The German Attack on Stalingrad in Photos. It will have about 600 photos many taken from private collections, so not just the usual incorrect or misleading captioned, titled photos you see in most books.
  

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  Posted by stalteriisok (U3212540) on Thursday, 23rd October 2008

  U3280211
  
  
  Try the superb "Stalingrad" by Anthony Beevor.
  Easily the best of the bunch, in English.
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  now that is a book that MUST be read - read it on a spanish holiday and still felt cold lol
  
  each page made me feel more depressed about the sheer futility of it all
  
  mind u - all his books are so well researched - u wonder why it all happened
  
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  Posted by DL (U1683040) on Friday, 24th October 2008

  Thanks to all for their info on this one -
  I'd already got Antony Beevor's one, and agree it is about the best book on the subject I've read so far.
  
  My main area of interest on this is a very minor element of the battle, known as "Pavlov's House". It's such an intense, but small part of this huge battle, but one which deserves a bit more attention IMO. Basically an apartment block in southern Stalingrad, captured by 4 Russian soldiers under the command of a Sgt Yakov Pavlov (who incidentally appears as a character in the PC game Call of Duty 2!). They were reinforced (but not much), and the Germans never managed to retake the house. Chuikov said of this fight that the Germans lost more men to Pavlov's House than they did taking Paris.
  
  Cheers for all the input folks.

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  Posted by priscilla (U1793779) on Friday, 24th October 2008

  DL, the best I read was a Russian translation of War in the Ukraine because it gives the battle a place in an wful campaign. I think it ws by ZHukov.... And if you can track down books about Von Paulus, they give another side - his misery about the whole thing for starters. Sorry no to be more helpful my librar is divded between two continets and never seem to be in the place where I need them most.
  
  Regards, P.

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  Posted by George1507 (U2607963) on Friday, 24th October 2008

  Pavlov's house is preserved in Volgograd as a memorial of the battle.

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  Posted by suvorovetz (U12273591) on Friday, 24th October 2008

  DL, the best I read was a Russian translation of War in the Ukraine because it gives the battle a place in an wful campaign. I think it ws by ZHukov Μύ
  
  Personally, I would not recommend Zhukov as a historical source, with the exception of Halloween stories, perhaps.
  

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