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The repeat of Munich agreament
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Message 1.Β
Posted by hambi22 (U2309395) on Sunday, 9th December 2007
Some of the actor of the Munich agreament, as France ,Britain and Germany want, just on the year of 70-th aniversary of Munich agreament, repeat this smameful act once more, this time in Kosovo.
Why did those state back up so vociferously the kosovo independenc?
The Britain and US claim tha the independence will rise the economy in Kosovo and the the Kosovo will be no more base for drug smuggling.
If you consider the independent Albania, where some region are not just safety( if not under the reign of mafia), the claim of the two state is nonsens. -
Message 2
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Sunday, 9th December 2007
Hello hambi22
whether or not a territory is a base for drug smuggling, and whether or not it is safe, and whether or not it is under the reign of gangsters, should have no bearing on whether it should be independent or not.
That said - the Kosovo War in 1999 was an illegal war of aggression by NATO.
As such the NATO member states thus lost any claim to moral authority or arbitrator status in the dispute in Kosovo-Metohija. -
Message 3
Posted by Allan D (U1791739) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
The Munich Agreement was about the Western Powers suppressing a small state in deference to the demands of a larger neighbour. The spirit of Munich manifested itself, not currently nor in 1999, when NATO intervened to enforce an agreement that had been broken (unlike Britain & France in March 1939), but in the early 1990s when the Western Powers sat on their hands whilst they allowed a dictator to arouse ethnic tensions and use military force for his own ends.
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Message 4
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
What was the 'agreement that had been broken' in 1999?
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Message 5
Posted by Allan D (U1791739) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
The Holbrooke-Milosevic Agreement of 16 October 1998:
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Message 6
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
What terms of the so-called 'Holbrooke-Milosevic Agreement' were broken?
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Message 7
Posted by Allan D (U1791739) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
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Message 8
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
An interesting link but there's nothing in there about the 'Holbrooke-Milosovic Agreement'.
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Message 9
Posted by Allan D (U1791739) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
The elements of the Holbrooke-Milosevic Agreement signed on 13 October 1998 and ratfied by the Contact Group of Nations( USA, Russia, UK, France, Germany & Italy) on 15 October were as follows:
1. President Milosevic agreed to full compliance with UNSCR 1199.
2. A verification mission (Kosovo Verification Mission - KVM) of around 2,000 personnel with substantial powers would be established by the OSCE, which would have freedom of movement and could operate anywhere inside Kosovo. The special role of the KVM would be to verify compliance by all parties in Kosovo with UN Security Council Resolution 1199 and report instances of progress and/or non-compliance to the OSCE Permanent Council, the UN Security Council and other organisations, to maintain close liaison with FRY, Serbian and local Kosovo authorities, political parties, other accredited national and international organisations, and to supervise elections in Kosovo.
3. NATO would provide air surveillance to verify compliance by all parties with the provisions of UNSCR 1199. The mission would be comprised of NATO non-combat aircraft operating over Kosovo in conditions that fulfil all standards of safety.
4. The Agreement to reach a political settlement with the Kosovar Albanians to include broad self-government in Kosovo, elections to a Kosovo Assembly which will be overseen by OSCE, and an amnesty provision.
NATO considered these terms to have been broken by April 1999. I'll leave you to do your own web research. -
Message 10
Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Wednesday, 12th December 2007
So NATO took it upon itself to act as judge, jury and executioner in this matter?
Quite apart from the fact that the so-called 'Holbrooke-Milosevic Agreement' was not contracted between Yugoslavia and NATO - (it was contracted between Yugoslavia and the CGN) - a breach of such an agreement would not have provided a legitimite pretext in international law for war.
NATO took it upon itself to 'address' a grievance on behalf of another group of nations - the CGN - which NATO had no right to represent. NATO also decided to 'address' this grievance by waging aggressive war. This would have been a totally unacceptable response in international law even if it had been the GCN who did it.
NATO's aggression was not sanctioned by the CGN and neither was it sanctioned by the United Nations. It was illegal under international law and usurped the rights and roles of both the GCN and the UN.
NATO's war of aggression against Yugoslavia was also in direct violation of NATO's very own Charter. -
Message 11
Posted by hambi22 (U2309395) on Thursday, 13th December 2007
As I remeber, sorry I dont know the details. There was made one international backed proposal, about 1999, for solution of Kosovo problem. It was a Kompromise, the Kosovo should get more autonomous, the Serbs accepted this, the Kosovo Albans not. But in the very end it was the Yugoslawia who was strafed. I thought that the NATO is preduced against Yugoslawia, because of Milosevic. But even now ,when in Belograd is a more pro western goverment the situation hasnt change.
But may be I am wrong , may be tha NATo is not predjuced against serbs , it is only backing up tha Albans. What was seen during the albans war in Macedonia.
But I dont know still why , does nato nΒ΄back the Albans up?
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