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Riots?????

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  Posted by NicolaMorris (U3355161) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  what do people think about the riots in Dublin last week? I think that the Irish were justified to be angry at the Orange Order being allowed to march through the capital of the a Republic country but part of me feels that perhaps things were taken a bit far. A peaceful demonstrarion was all that would be necessary or even slightly more peaceful than what happened.

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  Posted by Mick_mac (U2874010) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  I am an Irish republican and I absolutely and without any reservation whatsoever support the right of the Orange Order to conduct a peaceful, legal and law-abiding protest march or demonstration through the streets of my capital city.
  
  The Irish Republic is a republic. It should, and does, cherish all of its people equally.
  
  Those uneducated, intolerant, sectarian thugs brought shame on Dublin and Irish society. Who do they think they are? Who gave them the mandate or right to decide who should march and who should not.
  
  I hope the police go after them with a vengeance. I know I would if it was in my power to do so.

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  Posted by Grand Falcon Railroad (U3267675) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  <quote user='NicolaMorris' userid='3355161'>w I think that the Irish were justified to be angry at the Orange Order being allowed to march through the capital of the a Republic.
  
  In this case why didn't the Irish voters remember what their government allowed and then send them a message at the polls by voting them out? As opposed to rioting.
  
  I remember reading a book about the troubles and a leading Loyalist said "Violence begets violence" - no stronger message could be sent to the people of the North and indeed pro-union British people that if the North was reunited with the South (and lets not forget that a lot of people have no real love for the Loyalist cause either) that riots and pogroms would force most protestants to flee Ulster.
  
  That is no marker to be pinned on any law abiding Irish citizen or law abiding Catholic person in the North but simply the way a lot of people will see it.
  
  Justice must be done and the rioters locked up.

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  Posted by Grand Falcon Railroad (U3267675) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  The above msg wasn't meant to be all quote but I don't know what I did to make it like that.
  
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  NewcFalcon<quote user='NEWCFALCON' userid='3267675'><quote user='NicolaMorris' userid='3355161'>w I think that the Irish were justified to be angry at the Orange Order being allowed to march through the capital of the a Republic.
  
  In this case why didn't the Irish voters remember what their government allowed and then send them a message at the polls by voting them out? As opposed to rioting.
  
  I remember reading a book about the troubles and a leading Loyalist said "Violence begets violence" - no stronger message could be sent to the people of the North and indeed pro-union British people that if the North was reunited with the South (and lets not forget that a lot of people have no real love for the Loyalist cause either) that riots and pogroms would force most protestants to flee Ulster.
  
  That is no marker to be pinned on any law abiding Irish citizen or law abiding Catholic person in the North but simply the way a lot of people will see it.
  
  Justice must be done and the rioters locked up.</quote>

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  Posted by nadine1f (U3354732) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  The irish did not have the right to be angry and display it in such a manner,they can be angry but how many orange order were injured. It was an excuse to rob shops and burn cars and get away with as much trouble as they could it was more so a riot against the police

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  Posted by Grand Falcon Railroad (U3267675) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  Sounds like most riots I've ever heard of e.g. Paris, Bradford, Oldham etc.
  
  What the RoI have to remember is that they (through diplomatic channels) would have been the first to complain if Ulster Catholics or for arguments sack an Eire based marching band had been attacked in Ulster say on St. Patricks day.
  
  Essentially the UK govt. has allowed UK citizens to be attacked whilst overseas and in a lot of cases this would have provoked a much stronger response from Westminster - the Dael should think itself lucky.

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  Posted by Markot (U3354721) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  Newfalcon there was widespraed anger among the majority of Irish citizens regarding these thugs actions and all political parties condemned the riots in the strongest possible terms.
  What is truely annoying about this episode, is the Orange Order is vindicated(by the actions of a minority of idiots) in its views of ROI - it being monothestic and totally unsympaththetic to unionist concerns.
  
  I saw the march , as a Republican, as the perfect oppurtunity to raise the issue of a united Ireland in a peaceful manner and talk about the practical benefits of it with unionists who would have faced a mature public.
  
  However as always it seems than rather to try and understand unionist concerns like ex prime minister Sean Lemass the idiots have won and it seems like ROI havn't progressed at all - when in fact it has regardng this issue.
  
  But mark my words these idioyts couldn't care less abot politics, history or patriotism and will riot in Dublin on Patricks day and on the day of the commemoration of the 1916 rising parade.

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  Posted by Markot (U3354721) on Thursday, 2nd March 2006

  Newfalcon there was widespraed anger among the majority of Irish citizens regarding these thugs actions and all political parties condemned the riots in the strongest possible terms.
  What is truely annoying about this episode, is the Orange Order is vindicated(by the actions of a minority of idiots) in its views of ROI - it being monothestic and totally unsympaththetic to unionist concerns.
  
  I saw the march , as a Republican, as the perfect oppurtunity to raise the issue of a united Ireland in a peaceful manner and talk about the practical benefits of it with unionists who would have faced a mature public.
  
  However as always it seems than rather to try and understand unionist concerns like ex prime minister Sean Lemass the idiots have won and it seems like ROI havn't progressed at all - when in fact it has regardng this issue.
  
  But mark my words these idioyts couldn't care less abot politics, history or patriotism and will riot in Dublin on Patricks day and on the day of the commemoration of the 1916 rising parade. Sounds like most riots I've ever heard of e.g. Paris, Bradford, Oldham etc.
  
  What the RoI have to remember is that they (through diplomatic channels) would have been the first to complain if Ulster Catholics or for arguments sack an Eire based marching band had been attacked in Ulster say on St. Patricks day.
  
  Essentially the UK govt. has allowed UK citizens to be attacked whilst overseas and in a lot of cases this would have provoked a much stronger response from Westminster - the Dael should think itself lucky.Β 

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