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  Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Tuesday, 14th February 2006

  
  Nick,I am not to be suprised very much when I've
  
  chosen that it was
  the Flemming Rose from Denmark's leading
  
  Newspaper who published these infamous cartoons
  
  that have insulted millions of people over the
  
  world . He was during 14 years the papers
  
  correspondent in Russia, and in his own words ,
  
  this expeirience ' in a totalitarian society have
  
  influenced me for life'.I can agree with that
  
  statement only partly.
  Although the the famous 'atomic spies'
  
  Julius&Ethel Rosenberg were the children of
  
  Russians who went to the New World determinated
  
  to make a different and better
  life.But their dream wasn't the same dream as
  
  that of their family and neighboures-it was one
  
  that could only be fulfilled by an alien creed
  
  hostile to their Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔland and the government of
  
  the United States Of America.
  They were at the heart of a traitorous network
  
  which passed the secrets of America's first
  
  A-Bomb to the Russia...until they were tried and
  
  executed in the electric chair as spies for their
  
  plot to SELL America's nuclear secrets to Kremlin
  
  Commies and while apologists and historical
  
  revisionists have argued down the years that the
  
  pair were the victims of a ghasty frame-up
  
  ,experts conclude that the verdicts and sentences
  
  passed upon 'em have stood the Test of Time.
  Other pro-Soviet Russian journalist from the
  
  Soviet Ukraine arrived in New York in the late
  
  70s brandishing a list which he said contained
  
  the names of more than 70 Nazi collaborators from
  
  the war years who now resied comfortably in
  
  America.The journalist handed the list to the IND
  
  which went through its files on the people
  
  named.The list alleged that one IVAN DEMJANJUK
  
  had served as a guard at the Nazi camp of
  
  Sobibor.The INS in turn sent the picture taken of
  
  Demjanjuk at the time of his entry to the USA to
  
  Israeli police,along with the snaps of 15 other
  
  suspecters.
  The life of Demjanjuk was hard in the Russian
  
  dominated Ukraine where there was never enough
  
  food and schooling was limited.He moved to Moscow
  
  as a boy when Stalin's Ukrainian Holocaust was
  
  launched throught Ukraine that killed over
  
  10,ooo,ooo people.During WWII in 1942 he was
  
  fighting in the Crimea where Germans captured him
  
  and his unit.And in 1945 Germans offered him and
  
  his fellow Ukrainians the chance to join the
  
  RLA,an anti-Stalinist cadre 'cos he ,like other
  
  Ukrainians(Latvians,Estononians,Lithuanians),felt
  little kinship for the Russian Commies in Moscow.
  But his son John Inr proved beyond doubt that he
  
  is not 'Ivan Terrible'-even though it is
  
  conceivable he did work for the Nazis.And Gitta
  
  Sereny,the influential Italian journalist has
  
  rightly pointed out:'It is conceivabable that the
  
  Israeli SupremeCourt may now have to be content
  
  with Ivan THE LESS Terrible'.
  Go into any Serbian or Ukrainian church in
  
  America and you'll meet a hundred like him!
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Tuesday, 14th February 2006

  ...and thanks to amazing detective work-and some help from insiders on the gov.team who were sympathetic to the Demjanjuk side-John biult up a crediable dossier for his acquiattal in 1990s.

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  Posted by Dirk Marinus (U1648073) on Tuesday, 14th February 2006

  Ounupa,
  
  Are the dates in this paragraph of your post:
  
  
  
  "During WWII in 1942 he was
  
  fighting in the Crimea where Germans captured him
  
  and his unit.And in 1945 Germans offered him and
  
  his fellow Ukrainians the chance to join the
  
  RLA,an anti-Stalinist cadre 'cos he ,like other
  
  Ukrainians(Latvians,Estononians,Lithuanians),felt
  little kinship for the Russian Commies in Moscow"
  
  
  correct?
  
  
  
  

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• Message 4

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  Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Tuesday, 14th February 2006

  Yes,Dirk.From the Crimea he was taken to the Rovno camp(West Ukraine) and transferred a few weeks later to the POW camp for Red Army captives in Chelm,Poland.Here he was put to work digging peat and moved on from there to another POW camp in Graz,Austria.It was at the Graz camp,that he was given that 'SS tattoo' under his arm TO INDICATE THE BLOOD GROUP-not 'cause he was in the SS.In 1945 to join up Russ.Liberation Army(so-called 'vlasovtzy'),escaping at the end of the WWII to the West where he had the tattoo removed.In May 1945 he ended up at a displaced person's camp in Landshut.Germany.

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