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Aghanistan is a lost case
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Message 1.Β
Posted by Nick-Rowan (U2517576) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
PBS Frontline:--- R-U-M-S-F-E-L-D-S----W-A-R---
This masterly documentary coming out from the best America has in the field, PBS in Boston, with numerous co-productions with the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ in the past, is a must see. It was broadcast in America in October 2005, and are now available as a free streaming download in 6 parts. Presumably devided along all ready existing commercial breaks lines, but also to make it more difficult for anyone wishing to burning it on a DVD, this film shows Rumsfelds background as a wrestler at his university(). It features numerous interviews with many military brass people at the Pentagon, furious at the way this civilian has been going about his re-shaping and stripping of Authority of the very military people who knows all about war, and how you need several hundred thousand troops to occupy a country the size of Iraq.
The only rather ingeneous way Rumsfeld did, was in the aghanistan war, where just 200 covert agents on horsebacks where plotting bomb-targets. This was new to me - that so few americans were in at that time. But one then has to remember the stalemate that the Northern Alliance was in towards the Taliban, and that it just needed a little push on the side of the Northern Alliance( those people the CIA knew from the days they were fighting the Soviets) before they could march into Kabul without one shot being fired.
*Rumsfeld's War website:
***Direct link to the streaming experience:
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Message 2
Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
Nick, exactly how is this History?
Go onto a current affais board and stop filling the space here with it. This board is to debate history.
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Message 3
Posted by Nick-Rowan (U2517576) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
Well, it is a bit recent i will give you that, but there have been several threads on this subject recently, being actualised by the upcoming deployment of NATO troops in the violent Helmand province. And I am asking: Given that several hundred thousands of troops are needed to secure a ny country the size of Aghanistan (Karzai is sometimes referred to as 'The Mayor of Kabul')and Iraq for that matter, what exactly are we doing there, if the locals don't want us, and if we are not ready to deploy the troops that is needed to secure the place?
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Message 4
Posted by Nick-Rowan (U2517576) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
Yes I know I know, twice as many as perished at Sabra and Chatilla and its aftermath, died in WTC on 9/11, but what about adressing the real problems for a start?
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Message 5
Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
Nick, it's current affairs, not History.
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Message 6
Posted by BrownSnow (U3164582) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
nick please don't clog up this board with your views
you can go to all the other boards with your views, but not this one please -
Message 7
Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
Yes I know I know, twice as many as perished at Sabra and Chatilla and its aftermath, died in WTC on 9/11, but what about adressing the real problems for a start?Β
Nick,what do you think about Iran's 'product of culture' who has launched his campaign against Jewish Holocaust among those who have never heard about WWII and seen a Jew to cover his plans of creating his own nuclear weapons.
I am hardly to believe that Iran needed in A-energy stations having in its disposal the richest reserves of gas&oil. -
Message 8
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
Yes I know I know, twice as many as perished at Sabra and Chatilla and its aftermath, died in WTC on 9/11, but what about adressing the real problems for a start?Β
Nick,what do you think about Iran's 'product of culture' who has launched his campaign against Jewish Holocaust among those who have never heard about WWII and seen a Jew to cover his plans of creating his own nuclear weapons.
I am hardly to believe that Iran needed in A-energy stations having in its disposal the richest reserves of gas&oil.Β
Oh no,
Who mentioned the "J" word??? OUNUPA, you'll set him off again
(now waiting in a state of apprehensive gloom for Nick's "The Jews did it all, blame the Jews International Zionist conspiracy blah blah blah blah blah foaming at the mouth blah blah" reply). -
Message 9
Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Wednesday, 8th February 2006
DL,you think Nick wants to help the Iran's 'leader' buzzing about that 'conspiracy' in order to be in line with these his 'citizens' of whom I've mentioned.Interesting....
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Message 10
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Thursday, 9th February 2006
No,
I think he's spent too long reading extremist websites, and actually believes all the sad conspiracy theories he keeps spouting. -
Message 11
Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Thursday, 9th February 2006
DL,but it is a real shame for him to side with the Iran's mob on that point.
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