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Hitler, dictoators and some rambling too

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  Posted by Slimdaddy101 (U2553470) on Monday, 30th January 2006

  I think it was Speer who first proposed that Hitler was a historic phenomenon, a product of the post WW1 Germany. Was he a (con)sequence of the Treat of Versailles, the revolution and the events that followed? Was he a figure that events would have inevitablly produced?
  It is true that without these events he would never have found the soil on which his activities could bear fruit so rapidly and on such a scale. His whole demonnic figure, however can never be explained as a mere product of those events. They could just as well have expressed themselvs in a leader of mediocre stature. Was he not one of those one of those historic, inexplicable historic phenomena of nature whih emerge along the path of human history from time to time. His vision determined the fate of a nation. He alone was respponsible for the catastrophic defeat of Germany and its occupation and humiliation (the very thing he promised to avenge) The nation was spellbound by him.
  Perhaps total power does corrupt. When one man has so much power he can no longer use it wisely or justly. I think it is safe to say that a great percentage of totalitarian rulers have tendencies to invade,re-arm, massacre, impress other nations by sabre rattling, goose-step, bully, impose (4 or 5 year) plans regardless of the hurt and famine it causes their own populace. I don't think any autocratic ruler ever goes down well in the history books.
  The possibly of absolute rule by one man surrounded by idiots, should be prevented for all time. On this question I would even propose not even if he was democratically elected.

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  Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Tuesday, 31st January 2006

  'The possibly of absolute rule by one man surrounded by idiots' ....who allowed Hitler to abrogate Articles 114-118,123-124 and 153 of German Constitution...on 28 February of 1933.
  Then it was ALL over.

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  Posted by nuneatonguitarplayer (U2327933) on Wednesday, 1st February 2006

  I think it was Speer who first proposed that Hitler was a historic phenomenon Β 
  
  What do you mean "think"... before posting surely (as a historian should do) you would have checked a source?
  
  
  Was he a (con)sequence of the Treaty of Versailles, the revolution and the events that followed? Β 
  
  No, he wasn't a consequence of the Versailles Treaty... the problem Hitler could never grasp was the fact Germany did not lose the war. Versailles was treated as a defeat for Hitler because it contained the war guilt clause so you could argue that it spawned the sequence of events we all know. Yet it was Hitlers frontline position which gave him insight into the realities. Don't forget he had won 2 medals for bravery during WW1 and he felt sold out when the "November Criminals" (the Weimar government) agreed to the armistice. Germany had held back all Allied forces for 55 months with little help from their "friends" and not fighting had taken place on German soil.
  
  So my point is, the rot had set in before Versailles.
  
  
  

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