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HM Collingwood

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  Posted by teaston (U2658829) on Sunday, 29th January 2006

  Hello,
  
  I am trying to find information about the ship HM Collingwood. My grandfather's brother was on this ship when he was in the Navy, according to the 1901 census, based in Devon, but I am struggling to find any information about the vessel, or where it sailed. Any help or ideas would be welcomed!

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  Posted by dmatt74 (U1690430) on Sunday, 29th January 2006

  The ship's logs are at The National Archives, Kew.

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  Posted by teaston (U2658829) on Monday, 30th January 2006

  The ship's logs are at The National Archives, Kew.Β 
  
  Really? Thanks, I'll look into that. Just out of interest, do you happen to know what information those records will show?
  
  Thanks again.

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  Posted by Richie (U1238064) on Monday, 30th January 2006

  Teaston
  
  Your best bet would be to either go yourself or pay for a researcher to find the Military records of your Great Uncle.
  
  His records will show how long he served on the Collingwood and which other ships he sailed on.
  
  If a complete record can be found it might even include any mentions in dispatches he may have had.
  
  My G-Grandfather was serving in the navy at that time and provided that your uncle didn't serve in the 1st WW then his records may well have survived intact
  
  all the best
  
  Rich

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  Posted by dmatt74 (U1690430) on Monday, 30th January 2006

  The logs should include where they travelled, what happened, where they laid anchor, how strong the wind was, etc.

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  Posted by Brevabloke (U1685837) on Tuesday, 31st January 2006

  I think Collingwood was a pre-dreadnought of the erm, Collingwood Class!! At the time they turned them out like sausages. I think she had 12inch x 4 main battery and 9.2 secondaries.
  
  All such ships wiped off the map by the Dreadnought....

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  Posted by Jack Aubrey (U1198855) on Wednesday, 1st February 2006

  Brevabloke
  
  I had a quick look at my books this morning and indeed Collingwood was a pre-dreadnought though she was the only one of her class (her half sisters were the remainder of the Admiral class). She spent most of her career in the Med and returned to home waters in about 1901 as a costal defence ship being laid up in about 1903.
  
  Jack

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  Posted by Brevabloke (U1685837) on Thursday, 2nd February 2006

  Thanks Jack! I knew I was wrong there somewhere. Most of my little knowledge comes from two books;
  
  Battleships 1759?? to 1900
  
  Battleships 1900 to 1979
  
  Both very interesting books and well written, easy to read and pretty good illustrations.
  
  I also read a book called (I think) "The men of the dreadnoughts" many years ago which was good.

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  Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Thursday, 2nd February 2006

  Jack, according to a picture in this months Navy news. Collingwood was a Dreadnought. The painting shows (Not very well) Collingwood in line astern in 1811 with Dreadnought Bellerpphon Temeraire Superb St Viincent Vanguard then Collingwood. The painting can be found on www.maritimeprints.com Hope that helps Of course the navy used the same names over and over, so the chances are we are both right.
  Fred

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  Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Thursday, 2nd February 2006

  Shouild read 1911.
  OOPS.
  Fred

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  Posted by Jack Aubrey (U1198855) on Thursday, 2nd February 2006

  Breavabloke
  
  My main book source is Conways' 'All the Worlds Fighting Ships' which come in four volumes:
  
  1860 to 1905
  1905 to 1929 (I think)
  1929 to 1947
  1947 to 1982
  
  Weighty tombs but very informative!
  
  GrumpyFred
  
  indeed - we are both right. The Collingwood this thread is about was a pre-dreadnought and was sold for breaking up in 1909; the Collingwood in the picture will be the dreadnought that was given the same name - very confusing habit of the RN to give the same names to ships but I suspect part of the reason is to carry on the strong naval traditions and ties of the RN

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  Posted by Grumpyfred (U2228930) on Thursday, 2nd February 2006

  That's the navy for you. The picture web site may be of use to the searcher though. Back to knocking holes in a wall.
  Fred

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  Posted by Goldfinches (U2947535) on Friday, 3rd February 2006

  
  
  
  
  
  some helpful info on ships in general

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  Posted by Nick-Rowan (U2517576) on Wednesday, 15th February 2006

  THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES
  -your guide to ressources
  
  The National Archives has a huge collection of records dealing with Britain's military history. Whatever period you are studying, we will hold documents that reveal strategy, equipment and the experience of those that fought.
  
  You might be looking for an individual serviceman or woman's record. If this is the case, you can make things easier for yourself by bringing some details with you. These starting points will help you find the individual you are after.
  Make sure you have as full a version of the name as possible - it will be easier to identify 'Thomas George Victor Atkins' if you have the full name - there may be dozens of 'T. Atkins'.
  Find out which of the services the individual served in - the army, Royal Navy (including Royal Marines) or Royal Air Force. Any further details of the regiment and battalion, ship or squadron will also speed things up.
  Find out when the person served; pre First World War, First World War and after 1920 are the loosest categories, but again, the more detail you can provide the better. Enlistment and demobilisation dates are particularly helpful.
  
  
  
  

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