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Corned Beef Hash
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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by Backtothedarkplace (U2955180) on Saturday, 21st January 2006
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Ive ben clearing out the kitchen cuboards and, tucked away at the back was a tin of corned beef.
The gist of my question Is. What do you think the impact of tinned food on warfare? -
Message 2
Posted by Researcher 2922573 (U2922573) on Saturday, 21st January 2006
Was it at one time called bully beef. or was this something different? Ladies and Gentlemen.
Ive ben clearing out the kitchen cuboards and, tucked away at the back was a tin of corned beef.
The gist of my question Is. What do you think the impact of tinned food on warfare?
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Message 3
Posted by Backtothedarkplace (U2955180) on Saturday, 21st January 2006
The same stuff. It's ne of those things you either like or cant stand.
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Message 4
Posted by Richie (U1238064) on Saturday, 21st January 2006
it helped revolutionise warfare.
easier and lighter to carry larger ammounts of rations with a marching army
also the food lasted longers and was protected from contaminates and rats
its almost as good as a maxim gun -
Message 5
Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Sunday, 22nd January 2006
Ah! cornbeef mixed in with mash spuds with a fried egg on top.....Lovey
Regards
Spike
PS It was because of tinned food that the troops in WW1 could last so long in the trenches. Food wise that is. -
Message 6
Posted by arnaldalmaric (U1756653) on Sunday, 22nd January 2006
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Ive ben clearing out the kitchen cuboards and, tucked away at the back was a tin of corned beef.
The gist of my question Is. What do you think the impact of tinned food on warfare?
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Vast, without the invention of canned goods or indeed dried food the WW1 armies could never have been supplied. (It was Napoleon after all who said that an army marches on its stomach).
(Aplogies I seem to bang on a lot about the problems of supply).
Cheers AA. -
Message 7
Posted by Brevabloke (U1685837) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
My dad was a cook in the Army in Australia during his national service. Battered saveloys, corned beef fritters, in fact fritters of ANYTHING were the go in the 1950s...but oh my god he had no idea how to cook a steak....
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Message 8
Posted by Disgruntled_Renegade (U530059) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
Mr Renegade Senior used to be in TA and later an Army Cadet Instructor and used to bring home British Army Rations, the tinned Corned Beef was lovely! and the Boiled Sweets. mmm
DL if your viewing this thread - is it true that when theres joint stuff going on with the americans, Gulf War part one and two etc that american soldiers would swap outrageous things in return for British Army foods, like beds, full coke machines etc? as Meals Ready to Eat are apparantly only ready to eat if your a Goat with no standards!
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Message 9
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
Hi Disgruntled,
I've never heard of a full coke machine being swapped. I did a few exercises with the Yanks in Germany and Saudi and I managed to swap 400 cigarettes and a set of US combats for some of our old style ration packs (the old tinned stuff). I only sampled the delights of MREs a couple of times and they were truly awful!
They all seemed to love our bacon burgers (again, something you either love or hate-tinned processed bacon, that you either ate cold (sort of like salty spam) or fried up. They loved them!
My favoured exercise food was, and will always be, the pot noodle (you bag up the pot noodle, and then you can fit three in one pot, and when you've eaten them all, you just burn it-no mess tins to clean!). All you need then is hot water (and AFVs have a nice boiling vessel to make sure you never run out of water for brews!).
Sadly, when they brought in the "boil-in-the-bag" type field rations, the trading value declined, although they are still a lot better than MREs. The old rations (the tinned type) were always the best IMO. I knew quite a few squaddies who would collect up all the unused tins after an exercise and live on them in barracks almost all the time(they claimed they preferred them to cookhouse food-yeah ok, maybe they had a point sometimes, it depends whether your chefs were any good!). -
Message 10
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
Just had a thought,
If anyone knows where you can the Army issue instant coffee, please let me know! The stuff they provided in ration packs was outstanding, a pint of that and you'd have enough caffeine in you to stay awake for a week!!
Cheers
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Message 11
Posted by Richie (U1238064) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
MRE's aren't bad although the one thing I have still to try is the squash concentrate
I also like the fact that you have yorkies in the packs but they have to be disguised so that people don't think the government is spending money on yorkies to put in the packs
Dark, you're best bet (short of finding someone still working in stores) would be to find an Army Navy Store (the chain doesnt exist but I have seen one or two independants)
me I'm a tea man myself so have never tried the coffee
but i do love the MRE breakies and main meals Sausage and Beans to start and then maybe lamb/beef stew with potatoes or beefburger and beans (also a breakie if you swap around) -
Message 12
Posted by Backtothedarkplace (U2955180) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
I agree. it was one of those "lightbulb" moments. That a simple thing like a tin of meat could be as important as the machine gun, or artillery.
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Message 13
Posted by Eliza6Beth (U2637732) on Monday, 23rd January 2006
What was pemmican then?
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Message 14
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
Rich,
They also have Lucozade tablets in as well (in a plain ahite wrapper naturally, with glucose tablets written on them!)
The yorkies always seemed to be out of date though, and had always gone white round the edges!!!! -
Message 15
Posted by DrkKtn6851746 (U2746042) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
Nothing beat a bag of compo porridge oats mixed with the entire contents of the hot chocolate sachet & just enough hot water to make the world's gooiest, sweetest, hot chocolatey sludge... (sigh...)
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Message 16
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
DrkKtn,
you are a legend! How on earth could I forget that one! You are of course forgetting, if you were in need of a more substantial form of stodgy calories, you can throw in the tinned mixed fruit pudding as well!
Happy days.... -
Message 17
Posted by Pugwash Trouserpress (U1865008) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
I must be getting old. Does anyone out there remember the old packet soups? Not the instant stuff you get these days (I'm going back to the '70's here). In particular mock turtle soup.
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Message 18
Posted by Richie (U1238064) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
ration pack E is my fav
although my yorkies seem to be more in date than yours.
mind you I get RAF MRE's maybe us wing wipers get better service than all you pongo's -
Message 19
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
ration pack E is my fav
although my yorkies seem to be more in date than yours.
mind you I get RAF MRE's maybe us wing wipers get better service than all you pongo'sΜύ
Richie,
You're a wing-wiper???? Shocking news! All this time chatting on here and I never knew that!
Still, I suppose you could class the RAF as the most sensible service out of the three, most of the unit stays home and polishes the pretty planes, and they send their officers off to do the fighting!!! Clever move!!
Yeah, you RAF lot probably do nick all the best rations before we got hold of em!!
You still serving or a retired wing-wiper??? -
Message 20
Posted by Richie (U1238064) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
purely a pretend wing wiper I'm afraid.
I have quite a lot of friends who are serving in all three services (a RM Major just back from Diego Garcia) a RAF Flt Lieuy flying Chinnocks (he seems to be in love with Afganistan as he has been there once and is going back again in a month) and i count three or four pongos as well although they are all retired due to injurys or mental disorder
I am (attempting) to join the VRT as an officer since I work with the ATC, but I have been in cadets now since I was 13 (and I'm 28 now) and even went to the trouble of studying Strategics at uni but the full life in uniform never quite appealed. I knew too much to go in blind and what I knew made me think twice beforehand, and then just when my desire to join (I was trying for the Navy as a supply officer) i met my future wife and that kinda derailed my attempt to join the regualars
still you pongos do know how to drink and that is a skill I do like to keep my hand in with
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Message 21
Posted by DL (U1683040) on Tuesday, 24th January 2006
BAH!!
We know how to do more than drink Richie!!!
We're very good at blowing stuff up too, from close range (as opposed to the RAF who do it from miles away, and the Navy who do it from even further, or even under the sea, damn sneaky submariner types, it's just not British!!!).
No, what I always say is that if you want something blown up properly, get the Army to do it, you're guaranteed total destruction!
Also, there is of course the fact that (and this is the opinion of Mrs DL, not me) our uniforms are a damn sight better too! Pongos indeed.
(DL lapses into Army recruitment mode..) You also have to consider the aspect of "big toys". In the Navy, most of the sailor-types are down below doing strange things with machinery, and in the RAF, only the fly-boys get to play with their toys, but the Army, well, most of us get to play with great big toys (like Challenger 2s and Warriors!), and that's a lot more fun!
Hang on, that's why the Army get the rubbish rat-packs, the RAF pinch the best bits!!! Why do you need them anyway, they usually refuse to play if they don't have a field kitchen along!!!
DL
(looking through the cupboard for his old combats...wonder if they still fit?) -
Message 22
Posted by Backtothedarkplace (U2955180) on Friday, 27th January 2006
dried buffalo meat mixed with fat and wild berries. Ive got a recipie somewhere if you want it?
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