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  Posted by ColdRed (U1713841) on Tuesday, 15th November 2005

  I just read this book and it moved me a lot.
  
  If youve never read it i recommend it.
  Its the story of a Helicopter pilot in the vietnam war and the effects that the day to day slog of fighting and flying in vietnam had on him, emotionaly and physically.
  
  A damn good book.

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  Posted by gooserss (U1983611) on Wednesday, 16th November 2005

  excellent book. the end is a killer though.
  another good one if you can find it Marine Sniper - about the us marines top sniper in vietnam. The end in that is just as bad.

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  Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Wednesday, 16th November 2005

  Was it about Carlos Hathcock??

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Wednesday, 16th November 2005

  Chickenhawk was so succesful he wrote a sequal to it. Actually he ended up in the slammer for drug running, but I don't want to spoil it for you.
  
  Cheerz.

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Wednesday, 16th November 2005

  Hi Mani,
  Did you buy into that tale of him and the NVA General Officer target ?

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  Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Wednesday, 16th November 2005

  Hi expat,
  
  Is that the one where he took several days to get into his firing position?
  
  I found the account of taking out his NVA counterpart aka 'Cobra' somewhat dubious. I've heard many stories of snipers shooting other snipers through the scope, including Vasily Zaitsev more than unlikely.

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Wednesday, 16th November 2005

  Hi Mani,
  I agree. I have no idea why they feel that the record of perfectly good snipers must be enhanced with a little fantasy. Why would Carlos have been on his own? As you know snipers are a two sets of boot’s event. Furthermore a mission like that (and I’m sure there were more than a few) would have been given to SF's. It surprises me a bit that the Soviet WW2 era snipers used a regular Mosin Nagant with scope, and the Germans a regular Mauser with same.
  I have seen a photo with a Modern Brit sniper with a 50cal and mounted scope. Is that regular issue?
  
  Cheerz.

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  Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Morning Expat,
  
  β€œWhy would Carlos have been on his own?” Exactly! In the Cobra scenario, he was with his spotter, as with all other anecdotes, so I can’t see why it would happen? As you say, the man was blatently a fine sniper, no need to exaggerate; the truth is what makes him special.
  
  β€œIt surprises me a bit that the Soviet WW2 era snipers used a regular Mosin Nagant with scope, and the Germans a regular Mauser with same.”
  
  Both are fine, accurate weapons, with conjunction with a scope, more than accurate enough. I don’t think the technology was available for floating barrels etc at the time. The No.4 SMLE Lee Enfield was the most accurate of them all, a version is still used by the British Army, although converted from .303cal to 7.62 mm. I think the difference lies in the lugs on the bolt, Mauser and Nagant both used forward locking lugs, the SMLE had rear locking.
  
  ”I have seen a photo with a Modern Brit sniper with a 50cal and mounted scope. Is that regular issue?” They’re used, but not regular issue, or should I say, standard issue to snipers. They tend to use the Parker-Hale (A wonderful weapon) or the converted SMLE (Short Magazine Lee Enfield) a standard weapons, both bolt action. There’s a tendency over here to stay with Bolt actions for sniping, which, obviously by default unless using a delayed recoil system (Which tends to be more unreliable) are more accurate.
  
  

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Thanks Mani

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Hi again Mani,
  I have several versions of both Mosin and Mauser, but not the sniper versions with mounted turrets. They are a bit pricy. I have each version of Mosin Nagants to include carbines from each country that made them. The Persian Mausers are the most sought after, also the Finnish versions which were originally war trophies. My Mausers from WW2 era are my favorites. The Yugoslavians captured thousands of them after WW2 and refurbished them. I have several still in mummy wraps. I also get a kick out of my Dragunov sniper rifle. I'm sure no Carlos Hancock but that set up can even make me look pretty good. Its semi auto. It must have broke your heart to turn in your collection. I sure feel for you on that one. I have feral hogs on my place and because they are non native its open season on them. fun fun fun.
  
  Bye for now Mani.

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  Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Hi Expat,
  
  Hog hunting - Oh yes!!!! Only if you eat it mind.
  
  One of my favourite pastimes is to make my own cured hams, salamis and sausages. I'd be as happy as a pig in s**t with hogs wandering around!
  
  It was only my hand guns I handed in, my antique rifles are all de-activated, so I still have them.
  

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Hi Mani,
  You bet we eat them. You just have to be sure to cook them well done. They are crossed with Russian boar and some of them scare the c**p outta me. We have a small herd of mental Great Danes so nothing goes to waste. I don't shoot what we don't eat. Talking about antique guns we have a muzzle loading season here on deer, and a bow season.
  
  Cheerz.

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  Posted by Mani (U1821129) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Mussle loading season?
  
  I wouldn't like to miss with my first shot with one of thos boars after me. I only have Jack Russells, so I don't think they'd do much good against a large hog!

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Thursday, 17th November 2005

  Mani, The Danes are pets, and the muzzle loaders are 50cal ball for deer only.

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