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  Posted by aquiller (U2453590) on Thursday, 10th November 2005

  I recently visited Gettysburg in America.An important General in the civil war conflict was George McCellan. In the main area of Gettysburg was a house that had orginally belonged to McCellan.It was flying a flag with 3 stars.No one could tell me if this was a flag belonging to McCellan or to a particular battalion that fought under him.I asked in the house which is now a hotel but no one had that information. Does anyone does anyone reading these pages know anything about this flag.
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  Posted by The Researcher Strikes Back (U2183402) on Thursday, 10th November 2005

  If it was a flag with just three stars on it, it would be McLellans flag. I recently visited Gettysburg in America.An important General in the civil war conflict was George McCellan. In the main area of Gettysburg was a house that had orginally belonged to McCellan.It was flying a flag with 3 stars.No one could tell me if this was a flag belonging to McCellan or to a particular battalion that fought under him.I asked in the house which is now a hotel but no one had that information. Does anyone does anyone reading these pages know anything about this flag.
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  Posted by Steelers708 (U1831340) on Thursday, 10th November 2005

  Are you sure the house belonged to General George Brinton McClellan, he was born in Philadelphia and during and after the war lived in Trenton, New Jersey. In all the books I've read and have on Gettysburg they make no mention that the ex commander of the Army of the Potomac had any property there.

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Major General McCellan was a two star general. Three stars would denote a Lt General. That is a rank he never achieved.
  
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  Posted by Sabre-Wulf (U2142937) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Major General McCellan was a two star general. Three stars would denote a Lt General. That is a rank he never achieved.
  
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  I'm sure you're right Expat, but why is a Lt General a Higher rank than a Major General, when lower down a Major outranks a Lieutenant?
  
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  Posted by DL (U1683040) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Wasn't McClellan the guy who just sat on his backside and did very little in the way of attacking? If I recall correctly, he had to be literally forced into taking any sort of action at all.
  
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  Posted by The Researcher Strikes Back (U2183402) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  He was what come have called "cautious". He was the one who lost his job in November 1862 after allowing JEB Stuart to ride completely round the Army of the Potomac. He went home to Trenton to await new orders which did not come. After the Civil War he became a politician. Wasn't McClellan the guy who just sat on his backside and did very little in the way of attacking? If I recall correctly, he had to be literally forced into taking any sort of action at all.
  
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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Hi DL,
  When his troops were committed he was well and truly at least 10 miles away. He was indeed very cautious. I can't reply to your last post on< America, Britain's friend or foe?> For some reason the button is not there.
  
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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  
  
  I'm sure you're right Expat, but why is a Lt General a Higher rank than a Major General, when lower down a Major outranks a Lieutenant?
  
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  Hi Sabre,
  Thats an interesting question, i'm sorry I don't have the answer for you.
  
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  Posted by Elistan (U1872011) on Friday, 11th November 2005

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  why is a Lt General a Higher rank than a Major General, when lower down a Major outranks a Lieutenant?
  
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  Did a bit of google on this, and lieutenant means 'place-holder', or second-in-command. So lieutenant is second in command to a captain, a lieutenant-colonel is second-in-command to a colonel and a lieutentant-general is second in command to a general. A major general, according to wikipedia, is derived from "Sergeant Major General" and thus ranks beneath the general's second-in-command (ie the lieutenant-general).
  
  Hope that clarifies
  
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  Posted by Elistan (U1872011) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Bit of additional information. Apparently the ranks Sergeant-Major and Sergeant-Major General as officer ranks date back to before the English civil war, by which time the sergeant bit was largely dropped. The major is the third rank of a regiment, and Major-General is the third rank of the army.
  
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  Posted by Sabre-Wulf (U2142937) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Thanks for this.
  
  I must admit I've always been a bit confused by some of the higher up ranks. The one that really sticks out as sounding odd is the German use of Colonel-General, which I just can't get my head round!

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  Posted by Elistan (U1872011) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Colonel is an old latin term for column leader, so...

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  Posted by DL (U1683040) on Friday, 11th November 2005

  Elistan,
  I've always preferred the more biological association with Colonel. (Colonel-colon-large intestine-.....I'll leave the rest to your imagination!)
  
  Apologies for lowering the tone!!!
  
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  Posted by aquiller (U2453590) on Saturday, 12th November 2005

  I can only go by the information given to me by the "experts" on the tour of gettysburg. It was said that he did own the property before he stood in the presidential election against Lincoln. I forgot to mention that the flag had 3 stars at the staff end and the rays of the sun on the last 2 thirds. I'm not usually so into flags but the fact no one in Gettysburg could tell me about piqued my interest. Thanks Are you sure the house belonged to General George Brinton McClellan, he was born in Philadelphia and during and after the war lived in Trenton, New Jersey. In all the books I've read and have on Gettysburg they make no mention that the ex commander of the Army of the Potomac had any property there.Μύ

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  Posted by the_other (U2402568) on Saturday, 12th November 2005

  
  
  takes forever to download
  
  yankees are wonderful people
  
  no just kidding

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  Posted by the_other (U2402568) on Saturday, 12th November 2005

  
  
  that?

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