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The Korean War

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  Posted by naylingroad (U2216766) on Tuesday, 25th October 2005

  Why is the Korean War ignored in your list of wars? It started with the invasion of South Korea by the communist sponsored North Korea on 25th June 1950 in contravention of the United Naations. There was s cease fire which came into force at 10p.m. local time on 27th July 1953. The spread of communism stopped at the 38th parallel. It is called "The Forgotten War"
  The Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ have certainly forgotten it and the part that 55,000 British troops played in it together with many Commonwealth troops and some European troops, notably French and Dutch and Luxemberg.
  Perhaps you will correct this omission soon.
  

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  Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Tuesday, 25th October 2005

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  Naylingroad,
  
  I was and still am very interested in the Korean War and saw I thought a good Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ? documentary about it, years ago. I mentioned it already several times on these boards, but wasn't sure if it wasn't from Channel 4. So I decided today to do the ultime research and found it.
  
  Google: trumedia dvd bbc documentary history korean war. And there it is: Nearly 20Β£ that's not cheap. And I am not even sure if it is this one I saw, while I didn't find in one hour research no references to it. But in the meantime I found some interesting survey from the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ on internet. Some half an hour read.
  
  And BTW, You mentioned the Dutch and those from Luxemburg, but you forgot my Belgian compatriots (big smile). I knew some veteran, but he is dead now. Natural cause in his bed in Belgium.
  
  And Mac Arthur who wanted to get nuclear and had to be stopped by his president...
  
  Kind regards and welcome to the boards.

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  Posted by Mark E (U204575) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005

  Hi Naylingroad
  You can't have looked too hard! Take a look here
  
  
  Which includes a link to an article about the Korean war called - you guessed it - The forgotten War.
  
  There is also an article about American forces' conduct during the war.
  Cheers, Mark

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  Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005

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  Mark, my old (veteran? Or has "old" in this context the same value as in Dutch? Hence you can have a young old friend?) friend,
  
  If I click on your name I see a lot of messages in the 6 latest hours. Happy that you are around again...some three weeks ago?...
  
  Warm regards,
  
  your friend Paul.

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  Posted by Mark E (U204575) on Thursday, 27th October 2005

  Hi Paul
  Nice to 'see' you again. Feeling old today after one too many drinks last night
  
  I get on here when I can, send a flurry of posts then disappear again...
  Hope to see you around, Mark

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  Posted by Erik Lindsay (U231725) on Thursday, 27th October 2005

  Why is the Korean War ignored in your list of wars? It started with the invasion of South Korea by the communist sponsored North Korea on 25th June 1950 in contravention of the United Naations. There was s cease fire which came into force at 10p.m. local time on 27th July 1953. The spread of communism stopped at the 38th parallel. It is called "The Forgotten War"
  The Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ have certainly forgotten it and the part that 55,000 British troops played in it together with many Commonwealth troops and some European troops, notably French and Dutch and Luxemberg.
  Perhaps you will correct this omission soon.
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  Forgetting the Korean war seems to be an habitual thing with everyone, especially the Americans and particularly the US gov't and press. The US veterans were ignored when they returned and the war, its cause and aftermath, is generally ignored even today. Much is made of the Vietnam vets who fought a war that was a good deal less justified than the Korean War and yet the latter produced nearly as many casualties in its 3 years as Vietnam did in 10, and its results were far more satisfactory than the Vietnam conflict's were. I still wonder why it's brushed off so casually by historians. There's many a comment been made that WW2 was the last 'good' war, which I presume means that it was the last one being fought by the 'good guys' against the 'bad guys'. Most Korean vets, including me, resent that but no one seems to care.
  
  As for the combatants, don't forget the Canadians. We were there in considerable numbers, considering the country's population -- and then there were the Turks. Not Europeans, but they were there. I fought alongside a company of them at one point and they were an interesting group. They were certainly sincere in their determination to kill the enemy. There are stories that they would often sneak off individually at night and commit some quiet butchery in the Chinese lines before they returned and I was told the Chinese were scared to death of them. I can't vouch for the accuracy of those stories, but their men carried long, very sharp knives as part of their equipment, and having spoken with a few of their officers, I wouldn't doubt it.

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  Posted by expat32 (U2025313) on Thursday, 27th October 2005

  I think you don't hear much about it because it was not a big war (unless you were in it) and coming fairly soon after WW2 I figure folks just had enough of war. Also there was no big final ending that brought celebration.
  
  In talking to our veterans the thing that strikes me is the respect they have for the Turkish soldier. Evidently the North Koreans and Chinese wanted nothing to do with them. It was described to me that when they hit the U.N.lines, they acted like a fast moving stream hitting a huge rock.
  They would go around rather than take on the Turks head on.
  
  When you remember their performance at Gallipoli it may be easier to understand. The Turks of course are Muslims, Given the mid east situation, something we should remember perhaps.
  
  Cheers

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  Posted by TonyG (U1830405) on Thursday, 27th October 2005

  I think you don't hear much about it because it was not a big war (unless you were in it) and coming fairly soon after WW2 I figure folks just had enough of war. Also there was no big final ending that brought celebration.
  
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  Spot on. I also think that Vietnam took over as it was the first real Television War, beamed into millions of homes in Europe and America.
  
  For many, the only knowledge of the Korean War is what they learned from "MASH", although I expect many viewers think it was set in Vietnam.

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  Posted by Mark E (U204575) on Friday, 28th October 2005

  For many, the only knowledge of the Korean War is what they learned from "MASH", although I expect many viewers think it was set in Vietnam.Μύ
  M*A*S*H what a great series that was. Set in Korea it may have been, but it was about Vietnam, I think

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  Posted by TonyG (U1830405) on Friday, 28th October 2005

  For many, the only knowledge of the Korean War is what they learned from "MASH", although I expect many viewers think it was set in Vietnam.Μύ
  M*A*S*H what a great series that was. Set in Korea it may have been, but it was about Vietnam, I thinkΜύ
  
  It was based on Richard Hooker's books and he was a doctor in Korea. (He used a nom de plume and I can't remember his real name). However, I suspect you are correct in that, like most TV programmes & films, the scripts were heavily influenced by what was going on at the time they were making the programme, which was, of course, Vietnam.

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  Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Saturday, 29th October 2005

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  Mark,
  
  thank you for your "heartwarming" reply. Yes, and I get on here when I can too.
  
  All the best,
  
  Paul.

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