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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Can anyone please throw any light why all of one of my ancestors family are not on any 1871 census. They were married in 1859 and had their first child in 1860 and appear on the 1861 census living in Sunderland. By 1881 there are 4 more children and they have moved to Lincolnshire. Thereafter they are not on any of the census except for the son who moved to Deptford and had his only family. Where would I start to look to find them in 1871. Any advises would be much appreciated.
  
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  Jo

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  What names are you looking for? I don't mind a creative search through the rather bad index on Ancestry this evening, if that might help.

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Many thanks. The name is Thomas Ayscough b Jan/ Feb 1837 though he is not on any but the 1861 census. His wife - Eleanor - nee cummins b July 1842.
  Chidren are: Eleanor Cummins b 1869
  Isabella b 1865
  Mary Ann (Annie) b 1860
  John Cummins b 1864
  Thomas ( My G G grandfather b 1877. All the children were born in Sunderland but moved back to their fathers birthplace by 1881.
  
  Any help would be much appreciated.
  
  Many thanks
  
  Jo
  

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Jo, I cannot find anything on 1871 for any of the Ayscough names even with soundex on, so it has obviously been indexed incorrectly...what's new! Where precisely was Thomas born in 1837? I'll try again then.

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Bit of a tricky one this as all I have is that the only Thomas Ayscough b 1837 was born in Stallingborough and belongs to someone elses Family tree. There is nothing in the GRO for a Thomas b 1837 and as my Thomas was 22 when he married in April 1959 this was the only one that matched. But the 1861 census says he was b in Grimsby (About 10 miles away)I am Still trying to link the Stallingborough one and my G Grandfather b 1877, I am still trying to find my feet in tracing without birth certificates so am a little blind here I'm afraid and probably making the wrong assumptions. Thanks for your help. feeling a little lost and confused which is why I would like to track him to another census.
  
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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Jo, I have now tracked down part of the family on the 1891. If you click on my screen name and then the post title 'contact' under my messages, you can contact me and I will send you a copy of the census entry.
  
  My transcription (and it isn't very good because the image is quite difficult to read and has those heavy cross throughs all over it)is as follows:
  
  Source information: RG12/2613
  Registration district: Caistor
  Sub registration district: Great Grimsby
  ED, institution, or vessel: 7
  Folio: 25
  Page: 45
  
  76 Tild (a) (es) ? Street
  
  Ellen Ayscough Head Widow 49 (occupation unreadable) Born Durham Sunderland
  
  Ellena Ayscough Dau Unmar 21 Tailor employee Born Durham Sunderland
  
  Thomas Ayscough son unmar 10 scholar Born Lincs Grimsby
  
  I'll check back on the 1871 and the 1901 later on.

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  I'll be back online later...I promise. Bedtime for the children!

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Not your Thomas but it could prove useful in future: Transcribed as Ayscongh!
  
  Source information: RG10/3417
  Registration district: Caistor
  Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
  ED, institution, or vessel: 37
  Folio: 37
  Page: 11
  
  Stallingborough Village
  
  Thomas Ayscough Head Widr 73 Farmer Briglsey Lincs
  
  Ellen Parsons Serv Unm 35 Housekeeper Keibly Lincs
  
  I will return but it's looking increasingly futile in respect of your family. Sorry.
  
  
  

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  Well Jo, I shall have to admit defeat for now although I shall return to the search because I hate being beaten.
  
  I have checked the 1458 soundex matches for Ayscough. Nothing. I have checked under their first names only with varying dates of birth but I can never find matching family names. I have tried all sorts of keyword searches such as Lincolnshire, Sunderland, Stallingborough and Durham. I am bog eyed and still I cannot find your family.
  
  I will try again but there is a chance that they were not included in the census. People were missed or were out every time the enumerator called for reasons of their own.
  
  Sorry I couldn't help at the present.

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Tuesday, 6th September 2005

  From 1901 census, any use?
  
  Source information: RG13/3090
  Registration district: Grimsby
  Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
  ED, institution, or vessel: 17
  Folio: 138
  Page: 4
  
  56 (?) Fildes Street
  
  Florence Ayscough Wife Marr 23 Lincs Grimsby
  Ellen D Ayscough Dau 1 Lincs Grimsby
  
  Please do get in touch with me so that I can send you the images.
  

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Wednesday, 7th September 2005

  Unsure how to contact you. Please help me to contact you.I have some of the info you have stated in your messages. For instance Florence Ayscough nee Dales and Ellen Dales Ayscough is my g Grandma and my Nans elder sister. My nan was born Oct 1901. Many thanks for your help in this. I can let you know what I have for sure but am concerned about a few things. - Change of name from Mary Ann to Annie in one case (Not the Ayscoughs but the Dales)between 1871 amnd 1881 I think.
  
  Thanks again. currently at work so better get on with some.
  
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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Wednesday, 7th September 2005

  Click on my screen name. Scroll down the list of conversations I have particpated in. Find 'contact' (it's on the first page) and then press 'contact'. On that thread you will find details of an e-mail address I use for the boards.
  
  Changing a name from Mary Ann to Annie is not a problem. It was quite common for people to change their name to the one that was in common use rather than the name they were given at birth. In my own tree I have Ellen's known as Nellie's and Nellie's known as Ellens and Annis, known as Hannah and variations on a theme. Fickle lot those ancestors!

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Wednesday, 7th September 2005

  Well I consider myself to be PC literate but I have done all you said and I cannot find the 'contact' icon on any page. Where abouts is it please?
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  Jo

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Wednesday, 7th September 2005

  Sorry Jo, I don't know what has happened although you are not looking for an 'icon' but a thread called contact. Nevermind, here is a link:
  
  

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  Posted by johnlauper (U2010153) on Friday, 9th September 2005

  Jo> Here's the family you're after on the 1871 census (unfortunately the writing is very poor so I can't make out all the words):-
  
  Note: The surname has been mistranscribed in the index on Ancestry as Ryscough.
  
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  Address: 32 North ? Pl?, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland
  
  Thomas Ayscough, Head, 33, Marriner, b. Lincs, Stallingborough (?)
  Eleanor Ayscough, Wife, 29, b. Durham, Sunderland
  Mary Ann Ayscough, Daur, 10, Scholar, b. Durham, Sunderland
  John C Ayscough, Son, 7, Scholar, b. Kent, Deptford
  Martha (?) S Ayscough, 6, Scholar, b. Durham, Sunderland
  Eleanor Ayscough, 2, b. Durham, Sunderland
  Robert H Cummins, 18, Shipwright, b. Durham, Sunderland
  
  Hope this helps with your research.
  
  Regards
  
  John

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Friday, 9th September 2005

  It's OK John, I sent Jo the image two nights ago after finding it! We tracked them all down on the other census too.

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Friday, 9th September 2005

  Many thanks for your response. As Isabel says she found it for me too. He was on the 1861 census as born in Grimsby but I think that was jsut lazy. Also on the 1881 census he was on the vessel albert. I initially discounted this as it was a year out but think I must accept this as his family.
  
  Thanks again
  
  Jo

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